I know someone cheated on their SATs

<p>Screw whether or not people believe him in general. It's the college's decision.</p>

<p>As for evidence or possible explanations... The kids SAYS HE CHEATED. What more can you want? What more does one need to launch an investigation? If you saw cheating in front of you, would you think back and say "naw, I didn't get much sleep the night before, I must have been hallucinating"?</p>

<p>I realize that I sound over-righteous on this issue, but it's not the first time it's been brought up in CC forums. I'm hoping this time it will actually come to an ethical end.</p>

<p>an ethical end cannot be achieved if the accusing party has an inherent bias to the accused.</p>

<p>That's not true at all. </p>

<p>Look, the College Board asks for reports of any suspicion of cheating, regardless of whether there's direct proof. And a reasonable suspicion exists. It is an ethical and commendable thing to do.</p>

<p>It is stupidly easy to cheat on the SATs. There is literally nothing stopping someone from making a fake school ID and going into the test saying they are someone else. School IDs are very generic, unlike state driver's licenses, which for the most part are very secure. The college board doesn't require drivers licenses, just school IDs. A proctor could never know what an authentic ID looks like from every nearby school, for example.</p>

<p>All the more reason to try to fix the system.</p>

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first off good luck on getting college board to believe you. just so you know, the SAT isnt stupid enough to allow sitting next to a smart person to work. there are 3 or 4 different tests per room . . . and dictionaries on calculators are legal btw. </p>

<p>if you need to cheat on the SAT, you won't get a good score anyway time restraints are too limited to allow you a window of time to look up answers in.</p>

<p>and yes there are legal and nonlegal ways to 'cheat' on the SAT. although i wont tell u here or on PM dont want to give ideas . . . and no i dont cheat myself although i know some ppl who have and how they did it. funny how my 2330 SAT w/o cheating was 200 points above the highest kid who i know cheated .</p>

<p>all in all good luck getting some1 at college board to believe u. bragging about cheating could be a dork's way of getting a menacing 'reputation' . even i dont believe you lol. a big difference in prior score means nothing . . . and a big difference between math/verbal also means nothing . . . and sitting next to a smart person means nothing too cuz different exam versions are passed out . . .</p>

<p>it sounds as if your turning him in out of jealousy to me . . .

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<p>How do you score a 2330 on your SAT writing like this?</p>

<p>Turn the bastard in! Tell his college, the College Board, and your school administrators. More is better. Request--no, demand anonymity. Hell, if you're rich and have too much time on your hands, see if you can find some way to devise a contract to ensure it.</p>

<p>Well Tetragrammaton, i'm going to assume you did see the quotation marks but you wanted to make a clever remark so badly that you chose to ignore them. </p>

<p>Thats clearly not what I was saying smart ass. And you are most definitely not God.</p>

<p>i don't have the time or zeal to use correct grammar for online forums granfallooner.</p>

<p>and yes the essay was actually my weakest part lol 8 out of 12. o well. 740 writing worked fair enough for me w/ perfect reading n 790 math :)</p>

<p>and octopi, since when is turning in someone over spite and a likely coincidental seating next to a smart person an ethical or correct thing to do?</p>

<p>Fine, fine. Sorry.</p>

<p>And to all those accusing him of having a "vendetta": BOOOO!! OINK OINK! HISSS!!!</p>

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Thats clearly not what I was saying smart ass. And you are most definitely not God.

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<p>ROFL! Yeah, I'm sure God almighty, the "Thou shalt not lie, cheat, steal, cheat, cheat, or cheat" bloke from the silly books of yore doesn't want people ratting others out for cheating.</p>

<p>One thing I find hilarious about this thread is the number of people citing the unlikeliness that the young man in question cheated--and then resorting to this theory that The Brown Member has a personal vendetta. People on this site like to accuse others of vendettas. It's how they validate their own feelings of innocence.</p>

<p>I hate this youthful reverse morality. I'm not gonna tell The Brown Member to report arse if he indeed cheated--because he already is! If he's lying, he should still be reported (you'd be an idiot to take the test honestly and say you're cheating anyway... if that's the case, this person should be punished just for sheer dumb***ery). I'm glad you're doing this! To hell with all these narc-hater, none-of-your business, live-your-life, mellow-out fools! If this guy cheated, then it's my business!! Kudos to you, dude! ; )</p>

<p>ATLien: I apologize; I want to be reasonable. From the phrasing and placement of the quotes, I thought it sounded like you were mocking the idea of something being "ethically right" rather than mocking the OP's assertion. Read your post again; you'll see that it's an understandable error. </p>

<p>But I maintain my original point: it's not up to the OP to prove guilt or innocence. It's up to the college to judge.</p>

<p>By the way, the screen name is not intended to imply that I am god. Rather, I find it to be a word that sounds cool.</p>

<p>Actually I was just referring to his name - Tetragrammaton, which means God. And I firmly believe whoever is sitting behind that computer screen is not God.</p>

<p>It actually means the name of God. I dunno, he might be. It's about as rational an assumption as the assumption of God's existence, however improbable.</p>

<p>God - its cool</p>

<p>jp but it really is fine</p>

<p>It's not the entire name of God. Just the consonants.</p>

<p>I realize that I was just joking</p>

<p>Mmm... I don't see the reason why to cheat on SAT, I can understand AP classes, but SAT, that's just clear waste of time</p>

<p>To answer the original question: follow the steps to report your suspicion to the College Board. Bring as much evidence as you can. Do not bother reporting your suspicion to either the kid's high school or to his college. Neither of these schools will want to admit that they allowed a kid to cheat (in the former case) or admitted an uqualified cheater (in the latter case).</p>

<p>Cheating on the College Board is more rampant than a lot of people in this discussion realize. The College Board is aware of this. Most cases are settled quietly. The students are, however, usually not removed from the college to which they are admitted. The College Board has no power to do that, obviously. They can inform the schools that admitted the cheaters that the scores were fraudulent but most schools don't want to risk the PR fiasco that would ensue by expelliing an SAT cheater. (HEADLINE: "University Expels Student After Acknowleding They Never Should Have Been Admitted In the First Place").</p>

<p>You should have reported this the day of the test (or very shortly afterwards). It is way too late now and unless you have convincing evidence, no one will believe you.</p>

<p>brown bomber.... do u happen to live in hk? cuz i know who u might be talking bout then</p>

<p>you know it doesn’t really even matter. He doesn’t sound like the brightest bulb by telling everyone he cheated on the SAT, and the college that he got accepted into will probably overwhelm him. He’ll end up with a C+ average in college and end up with a mediocre job. Not being honest to yourself has it’s consequences.</p>