<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=248143%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=248143</a>. Enjoy! Cmon, we need comments!</p>
<p>I think it'll be OK if they removed the under God clause because I don't believe in God and refuse to pretend that I do.</p>
<p>I don't say the pledge in school. I just stand there and nobody cares.</p>
<p>I'm a legal, green-card holding resident, and as a non-citizen, technically legally (boy, does that sound weird), I'm not in any way required to even uphold the values in the pledge - merely to not commit treasonous acts.</p>
<p>We are most certainly not forced to recite the pledge - Barnette v. West Virginia Board of Ed. ring a bell? How 'bout the many other cases out there? It's simply that it has to be organized and led in the schools; we don't have to recite it if we don't wish to do so.</p>
<p>Had to school a teacher on this one day, who insisted that I recite the pledge when I felt no compulsion to.</p>
<p>Why? Because I'm not a citizen. Once I become one, I might. Then again, many people refuse to recite the pledge basically zs an act of civil disobedience, to show displeasure at our country's current policies. It's not unpatriotic to do so. Blatant disregard is.</p>
<p>Nationalism can be a horrid thing, so I'm glad to see some people sitting out the pledge, in criticism of the nation. In fact, isn't it patriotic to want to better your nation, instead of leaving it to what you think is its failings? I ask in anticipation of replies like those in the college thread - that those who don't are unpatriotic and should leave the country.</p>
<p>"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, divisible, with liberty and justice for all."</p>
<p>That's how I say it every morning. If you don't agree with part of the pledge, just change the way you say it. Nobody will notice, and your conscience will be at ease. I don't think I've recited the pledge as written for at least two years.</p>
<p>The point of those people is to get other people to notice - the point of any act of civil disobedience.</p>
<p>Me, I'm not reciting it because I'm not a citizen yet, and don't feel that I should until I am.</p>
<p>OMG you guys have to say the pledge? I forgot all about that...we only did that in elementary and middle. I guess too many ppl complained.</p>
<p>zip, why did you start this all over again</p>
<p>I would like to say, if you have real problems with the Pledge of Allegiance, maybe you should move to the Peoples Republic of China or North Korea(its kind of competitive with all the applicants though), I heard both those countries aren't too big on God.</p>
<p>On a more serious note, with very important events unfolding around us in the world--terrorism,nuclear war,global warming--it is very assuring that Americans worry about 3 words in something they are not even required to say.</p>
<p>In conclusion, God bless the Liberals. I hope we revise the pledge right as we get nuked or have another 9/11.</p>
<p>do we really need this thread twice?</p>
<p>people from the HS forum also can visit cafe too you know.</p>
<p>TheMK99, forgive me, but stop being so narrow-minded. God is not the only reason that people refuse to say the pledge - not hardly - see my previous post.</p>
<p>I'll give you that I am, admittedly, an atheist, but that wouldn't stop me from saying the pledge, sans those three words, if I was a citizen. Once I become one, I almost certainly will, unless I find fault in the government's conduct, and use passive refusal as an act of civil disobedience.</p>
<p>Yeah, we can visit the Cafe, but I don't, so...muh.</p>
<p>We said the pledge in kindergarten, and then we stopped.</p>
<p>We haven't really said it since...</p>