<p>Sorry - don't mean to discourage you. I'm sure it is better if you live with a few roommates. Palladium is pretty cool - great location right on Union Sq, plus you have a gym right in the building. Seriously NYU is great though don't worry. What field are you going to study?</p>
<p>memeti<em>12</em>89: I think you meant to say the Mets!</p>
<p>econ-math n minor or double (if i can) in philo</p>
<p>Cool - I was an econ major definitely check out the econ society for meeting people. Also, if you grades are good enough apply for the Econ Honors Society. I met a lot of great people through EHS, plus it will give you some amazing opportunities to go to guest lectures by and meet some real big name econ profs.</p>
<p>Were you from Stern or CAS anton? Are you working now?</p>
<p>FBI_34,</p>
<p>Both - I am a bit of a strange case, because I started at Stern and then transfered into CAS because I wanted to take more Econ classes and do minors in liberal arts classes. So I guess if you are interested I can address questions about either school - especially related to econ.</p>
<p>Yes, I am working. Since NYU, I worked at a research consulting firm and am now working on business side of a large medical group, at least until grad school.</p>
<p>That's cool - I'm currently a CAS econ major. I was just wondering...is the econ major in CAS stronger that the major in Stern or vice versa? Also, I want to enter the business world after graduation. Did you and your fellow CAS econ graduates have a hard time finding jobs (due to the competition with Stern graduates)?</p>
<p>Unless things have changed since I graduated in '04, the CAS and Stern econ majors are virtually identical. Stern doesn't have its own undergraduate econ department, so Stern students take all the same econ classes taught by the same CAS faculty. In other words, all undergraduate Econ students are essentially CAS students.</p>
<p>The big difference is in terms of the other requirements for a business rather than a liberal arts degree. Stern requires a huge number of classes outside your major, while CAS students have much more time for electives. Also courses actually taught by Stern professors (that is non-econ courses) tend to be very practically focused, while I found my CAS courses to be more theoretical and thought provoking. In my case, switching to CAS gave me enough time to complete 2 liberal arts minors as well as a few extra Econ courses and an Econ honors thesis. Obviously research with an important faculty member is a big plus, though I think some Stern students choose to do a thesis as well.</p>
<p>As far as finding jobs, I can only speak for myself. I didn’t apply to any finance / I-banking jobs because they held no interest for me. If that is what you want to do, I guess Stern has a very strong reputation. I only applied to research/consulting/marketing oriented positions and despite plenty of Stern students applying, I received an offer from one of my top choices back in December of my senior year. I don’t know how other econ students felt about the job market, but in my area of interest I believe that my research background and very strong GPA in CAS far outweighed the value of the Stern name or a business degree for that matter. Of course that may change depending on your area of interest.</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply.</p>
<p>I've recently become very interested in management consulting - do you think having an econ degree from CAS will prepare me well for that sort of career (I know you said you were interested in research/consulting/marketing - just want to clarify)?</p>
<p>Also, was your concentration in econ theory or policy?</p>
<p>To be honest I'm not sure. Personally I think it would be a good background, but I don't know what the big firms with think. You probably want to check with OCS about that. They are extremely helpful and the sooner you start talking to them the better.</p>
<p>I was econ policy. I actually would have done theory, but it was a new program and my Stern advisor was terrible so by the time I found out, I didn't want to go back and retake courses. I did take a couple theory courses though and I would highly recommend them especially for anyone thinking of studying econ grad school.</p>
<p>brand<em>182 - sorry I feel bad, didn't mean to steal your thread.
FBI</em>34 - I'd be happy to answer more questions, but maybe we should start a thread about nyu econ.</p>
<p>everything you say is helping me learn more. :)</p>
<p>What do you mean by "OCS"?</p>
<p>Office of Career Services</p>
<p>Youkosiren could you tell me a little bit more about those CAS econ majors that got jobs with investment banks? Did they do anything in particular to make them stand out?</p>
<p>I'm interested to hear about the I-banking jobs too.</p>
<p>Here is some advice for all the CAS econ majors seeking jobs (Disclaimer: Some of this might be out-of-date, because I graduated in ’04)</p>
<p>One of the biggest reasons Stern students do so well finding jobs is because Stern really pushes students to take advantage of career services. The problem is that you have to find out when these events are going to be held. Stern administration usually sends out emails to all of the students reminding them, but unless things have changed the CAS Econ department doesn’t do this.</p>
<p>1) OCS offers individuals help with resumes (I found this really helpful), practice for interviews and overall discussion on how to find jobs in the area you want. All you have to do is set up an appointment, but no one told me about it until I asked.
2) They also set up career fairs and info sessions for a lot of companies that come to campus. Most events are open to both CAS and Stern students, but make sure to attend them, because some companies collect resumes and if you don’t attend the info session (or email them to tell them you are interested but can’t attend) it can be very difficult to get an interview.
3) Make sure that you sign up to be on the Career Services email list for your graduating class as soon as possible. I can’t remember how to do that, but check the website or just call OCS. They usually send out updates and reminders about upcoming events.
4) Stay up-to-date on the Info Sessions and Job Listings through OCS online recruiting. You have to go some career services workshops before you can access the online job search system. So it is best to do this early. A lot of times companies have a short window of time to submit your resume online to be eligible for on campus interviews. I didn’t know about this, but some job listings happen very early senior year or even in August. So your best bet to get set up Junior year and check the website as senior year gets closer.
5) You can also use the OCS recruiting system during junior year to look for internships over the summer – another thing that I wish I new.
6) The econ department does list some jobs on a bulletin board in the department. Many of these are for graduate students, but it is worth checking them out.</p>
<p>Well that is all I can think of for now, but I hope it helps. So now here is my little rant / plea to give you some perspective.</p>
<p>Looking for jobs can be stressful and very competitive. One of my biggest complaints about Stern was that I felt even starting from freshman year there was more focus on what job to get after graduation and how much money you can make, than there was on actually thinking and learning new ideas while in college. This is part of the reason I transferred to CAS. Please please please do not fall into that trap. Remember - it is only a job and one of many that you will probably hold through your lifetime. As far as interviews, remember that they are a way for companies to evaluate you and a way for you to evaluate whether or not you would enjoy the job. If you have to lie / exaggerate to get a job, then it probably isn’t the right job for you, which means either you won’t do well or you won’t be happy. Above all, you are at a great school, in a great econ department and it is important not to get so focused on jobs that you neglect your education! Junior and senior years are your chance to take advanced classes in your major and to get to know outstanding professors. Take the time to go to office hours and make some strong connections, because if you decide to go to Grad School someday, these will be the Profs that write your recommendations. If you want them to be good, they better remember your name! Oh and of course, Grad schools don’t like to see transcripts that clearly show a case of Senioritis.</p>
<p>Good luck! Let me know if this was helpful or if I am wasting time telling you things you already know?</p>
<p>Wow anton - that has to be the best advice I've ever gotton on CC by FAR. Thanks a lot - you really know what you're talking about and I hope you'll continue to hang around here because CC needs more well-informed people like you. I'm going to go to OCS tommorow and get started.</p>
<p>FBI_34: yeah, Anton pretty much covered most of the bases. Try finding a finance internship summer after junior year, which really helps since most of those programs feed directly into first year analyst programs (so you'll be set with a job before senior year even starts!) This means you'll have to sign up for two Interviewnet seminars the fall of your junior year. Also, make sure you start checking Interviewnet during winter break of your junior year for internship postings and late August/early September of your senior year for fulltime postings. The big, famous investment banks will often have resume submission deadlines only a couple days after the start of the semester. It's totally crazy, but if that's what you want...</p>
<p>I don't really think there's anything extra you have to do as an econ student to stand out - NYU econ is good, and it's obviously related to the kind of job you'd do at an IB. My only suggestion would be to join a couple of finance-related clubs, or find some other way of showing your interest in whatever job you're interested in. </p>
<p>Otherwise, yes, take Anton's advice. It's a little bit of a rat race in Stern (as it will be when you start working, I'm sad to say), and you have to be able to step back and get a little perspective. </p>
<p>Oh, and something I'd really recommend - I forget if you're in CAS or Stern, but either way, definitely apply to do independent study/thesis if you get the chance. It's really a good experience.</p>
<p>FBI_34 - I'm glad to help. I'm happy to answer any other questions that you have.</p>
<p>Youkosiren makes good points. Activites outside of classes are going to help. Business activities can definitely help and even more important than that is going to be showing dedication to your activities and leadership positions. </p>
<p>I also highly recommend doing a thesis - it was a great experience. My thesis actually went a really long way in job applications because I was looking for positions with a research/consulting component. Oh and really getting to know a professor helped with my grad applications the past few months.</p>