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<p>Umm Man is the word for all of humanity, not men. I don't know if you ever took anatomy in school, so let me explain. A man has a p enis. A woman has a vagina.</p>
<p>^^^^</p>
<p>Yes, he's an idiot who won't admit when he's wrong.</p>
<p>Socialism isn't bad? Are you out of eight grade yet? Socialism has killed more people in the 20th century than most wars, diseases, natural disasters during all of man's existence. I am certainly not going to waste too much time here tutoring you. Pick up a book or two and get educated. Here are some links to get you educated on socialism. Oh, and look up the meaning of 'useful idiot'.</p>
<p>Heh…The same could be said of religion or nationalism. These things aren't necessarily inherently bad or good. Just depends on how they are implemented (manipulated). So again, you haven't come close to proving that socialism is bad or, at the very least, that Obama is one. Also, you haven't refuted anything I have said about 2Pac, rap in general or Oprah Winfrey.</p>
<p>Funny how MLK was called a communist and a socialist by some too in an attempt to discredit his achievements. I see you're following suit today with black leaders who are about something. Unfortunately for you, in 2006, the witch hunt has moved away from the reds. Those still on the hunt just look silly.</p>
<p>Whatever... Let ignorance foster. You can go back to worshipping your Tupac shrine. I am done here. The parent cafe is somewhat more mature than this.</p>
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<p>no problem...we'll leave you to your ignorance. peace.</p>
<p>Ok. Buh bye, brew.</p>
<p>yeah seriously, good riddance, brew. dismissing a whole genre of music as "crap" is SO mature, brew.</p>
<p>ohhh jeez another troll. dont even respond to him no matter how tempting, he's just looking to get a rise out of people/</p>
<p>Look, when people hear the word 'Metallica' who have never listen to it other than on MTV awards relate them to a bunch of screaming anger-ridden idiots because their assumption of 'mainstream Metallica' is based on their worst album 'St.Anger', or how Punk is horrible because Green Day sounds like a bunch of stupid teenagers sounding like a bunch of frogs, or how Fall Out Boy sounds like crap (which is true) and is the same as most rock (not true). Or that Rock except for 3 Doors Down and Nickelback sounds like that really ****ty album from Metallica. That's an opinion of a kid who listens to rap and only what's on MTV. (not me, but a friend of mine) </p>
<p>We are only experienced to what we've seen. Mainstream is what we see if we aren't into that specific genre.</p>
<p>The same goes for rap. What I heard (50 Cent, Claimore whatever, Busta Rhymes, 2pac, the like) sounds like pure unadulturated crap. Lyrics are the same, and are crappy to begin with, and since rap is all about lyrics, it kinda throws me off on the whole genre. The only mainstream rap I can stand is Fort Minor (don't know why) and Enimem...sometimes. Beyond that, the whole genre seems to suck to me. I bet if I was exposed to some other alternative Rap, I would like it a bit more, but like a guy who lives off rap trying to get into rock, all I know is the popular stuff.</p>
<p>Fall Out Boy does not sound like crap.</p>
<p>no more bashing on 2pac, seriously...</p>
<p>i think the 'changes' thread got to my head.. ha</p>
<p>Yea they do. I like them the 3rd time....after that, Fall Out Boy just got annoying.
I'm not the biggest critic of music, either. I like <em>shock</em> Nickelback, I like 3 Doors Down...I like mainstream rock. I just don't like Fall Out Boy. I'm not the only one, either.</p>
<p>I like rap music and I do agree that some of it is degrading. But I also agree dont that it is not safe to say the whole genre is degrading, but I still listen to the degrading songz b/c they have nice beats. Theres plenty of rap thats not like thats not "degrading" besides kanye west anywayz.</p>
<p>mozilla i love fob's whole album i think it's amazing. i also like those bands you like too, though.</p>
<p>I don't like Greenday...they sound like a bunch of toads...same with AFI. I really detest that kind of voice.</p>
<p>i dont like greenday either. makes my username kinda ironic. it was a phase.</p>
<p>and since rap is all about lyrics</p>
<p>LOL. This proves you don't know much about rap at all.</p>
<p>So what is it about? Beats? Kinda stupid, then. i can make my own using Garageband.</p>
<p>Depends on the artist and subgenre. You want to produce beats? Go for it. You're more likely to sink than swim...</p>
<p>I was being sarcastic :/</p>
<p>this is the main problem here. these white people will never understand hip hop its just not going to happen. They don't realize that when they are naming all these people who are black and above this they are really naming 'tokens' blacks who have given up there culture for the white culture.
which just like u all think rap is crap i think most white culture is beyond boring. but under normal circumstances i wouldn't say that but since ur trashing our music i mine as well state my honest opinion as well.</p>
<p>but what u all need to remember is that it is just ur opinion. after all as u know most black people can dance and again being honest most white people can't. that is y hip hop was created with a beat u can dance to while practically the only think u can do with rock/emo/country music is stand there or jump up and down. </p>
<p>and yes some of u might say we were just talking about music ur talking about culture. but in the black society music is huge. our main clothing lines are created based from rappers. for example south pole,roca wear, apple bottoms, g-unit, fetish the list could go on for ever. so wat ur doing in ur minds isn't racist because its just music to u but to us its so much more. not all lyrics are bad. u all listed like three bad songs but last time i checked i found at least three bad songs in every genre. try reading the lyrics of ne-yo,kanye west, r kellys christian album,and many others.</p>
<p>But if u don't want to u don't have to just stop trashing the music. u have no right because you'll never understand where its coming from.</p>