^ I agree. My college was 30min biking away from home. But once I started college (decades ago), I can count the number of days I was home. I was self-supported during college (grants, loans, and work). Then I left the city/country for graduate school.
So go to Ole Miss and live on campus in the dorms. Is that an option for you?
Nice thought…but with a $400,000 a year income, the family will be full pay at all schools in terms of need based aid. The Ivies, and many of the “elite” schools don’t give merit aid…at all.
I agree with going for a full ride that does NOT require parent filing of the fafsa. Either that…or go instate and live in the dorms.
ETA…how will you pay for most of these schools if your parents won’t.
Penn, Brown, Cornell give need based aid only. You won’t qualify.
You are not likely to get a free ride anywhere on this list,except the Mississippi schools where your parents will pay anyway.
Merit aid competition at Hopkins, Georgia Tech, Michigan is extremely competitive. Good luck. And not likely a full ride.
Take UCLA and Berkeley off your list. You won’t get aid from them…at all.
You might get good aid from Rochester and CWRU, but not likely a free ride.
Re: applying ED to Penn…do you understand that both you AND your parents will be required to sign saying you understand the ED agreement prior to applying? If your parents are refusing to pay for any OOS schools, what makes you think they will sign this form? And no, you can’t do it for them.
NMS should get you full-tuition, and some schools stack (enough to be full-ride).
You could also look at some schools that aren’t extremely far where you may get big scholarships (Rice, Vandy, Emory).
But @PurpleTitan even if the student gets $30,000 a year from Rice, Vandy or Emory…where will the remaining $35,000 come from? Parents say they will NOT pay for OOS.
Your parents aren’t going to pay for the apps to the schools that they won’t agree to.
Applying to schools cost about $100+ EACH, including sending scores.
In what region of Miss do you live? the northern part, central part, or southern part. If you live in the central part, then going to a Miss school in the northern part will “feel” like you’re away.
That said, can you tell us more…
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What is the truth, you keep saying OOS, but is the truth that you really just mean “top schools” like ivies?
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If you got a full ride or near-full ride to a school like Alabama, which is EXTREMELY close to Miss (an hour away from Miss State Univ), would your parents object? If so, why? It is soooo close.
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What is your major and career goal?
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What are some of the reasons that your parents don’t “trust you” to go OOS? Are they afraid that you will party too much and get bad grades? Do you party a lot now? Hang out with friends too much or spend too much time texting friends, etc?
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Do your parents think that you’re unorganized and have to be reminded and helped out too much? (seriously, this is why many parents object). If so, then the best remedy is to “get your act together,” and know where your things are, be organized, don’t need your parents to wake you up (or tell you to go to bed), do your chores w/o being reminded, don’t violate curfew, etc.
When I first created my college list, I had not yet discussed it with my parents. I won’t be able to apply to a lot of the top schools. I don’t live with my birth parents, if that makes a difference. Please don’t judge if you don’t know the story.
I skipped a grade when I was younger so I won’t be eighteen when I start college. I can’t say the whole source of conflict. But I have a half brother who is two years younger than me who my parents want to pay for to go to an ivy. My parents believe it’s more important for boys to get an education, and they haven’t really supported me through high school academics.
I also work part time but I don’t work too many hours because I walk home after wards (I don’t have a car).
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I don’t live with my birth parents
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Which parents are against you going OOS? your birth parents? or the people that you live with now?
Are your birth parents living in the US? Are they citizens or green card holders?
Are you a US citizen or green card holder or are you an int’l here on visa?
We’re not judging you; we’re trying to find out facts so we can help with a solution.
We only know what you told us.
My daughter knew a girl in high school that have parents like you. But her parents income was $50k and she got financial aid for school like Smith and Amherst. She is still in graduate school. Her brother was more favored. I don’t think she is moving back to this area anytime soon.
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My parents believe it’s more important for boys to get an education, and they haven’t really supported me through high school academics.
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It sounds like your parents don’t live in the US. Can the people you live with now explain that here in the US, women need an education as well so that they can support themselves? Women can no longer depend on husbands to support them for the rest of their lives because, well, many people divorce, sometimes the husband can’t earn enough, women want to support themselves, bread-winners lose their jobs, etc
What colleges do your parents (which parents) want you to apply to Mississippi? Seriously, if you go to Ole Miss, MSU, or Southern Miss, and live on campus, you will be “away” from home.
Is the situation with the family that you are living with “bad”?
What is your major or career goal?
If you don’t want to post info here on the board, please send a PM. I may be able to help you.
How much will your parents pay for college each year? Nothing??? or will they pay the amount for an instate school, like $25k per year??
Is this arrangement living with someone beside your birth parents a legal guardianship, an adoption…or some informal living situation. It makes a difference in terms of your financial aid status.
If you have been adopted by these parents…they are your parents and will need to be included on your financial aid application forms.
If this is a legal guardianship situation, and has been so since a certain age, you might qualify for independent student status for financial aid. Now before you get too excited…all that means is the folks you are living with would not need to complete the fafsa, and you would get $4000 in additional loans…if YOU complete the FAFSA.
As asked…who is saying they they won’t agree to an OOS school? The folks you are living. With…or your birth parents?
Not that it matters if you get one of the full ride awards.
Since you don’t have a car, can we assume that you will be allowed to attend a “sleep away” school in MIss?
edit…I now see that you said that you were born in Miss, so you are a citizen.
posted a couple of months ago…
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Objective: SAT I (breakdown): 760 CR/ 800 Math/ 750 Writing (2nd time taking SAT) ACT: N/A SAT II: Math II: 800, Physics: 760, Literature: 750 (I am willing to retake physics for 800 if needed) Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.85/4.66 Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 39/740 weighted, 98/740 unweighted AP (place score in parenthesis): Stats (5), Calculus BC (5), awaiting results in 6 other AP tests Senior Year Course Load: AP Literature, AP Spanish, AP Gov, AP Econ, Linear Algebra, Research Class Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Intel ISEF two-time finalist, multiple writing awards (Youngarts Honorable Mention, Foyle Young poet, and a few others...Scholastic Art and Writing doesn't count in my opinion)
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Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Science Olympiad (secretary), Speech and Debate (publicist), a few other small ones with no leadership (volunteering based)
Job/Work Experience: TA at Chinese School, reader for a few teen literary mags, research internship
Volunteer/Community service: Library (100 hours), Food Bank (for National Honors Society)
Summer Activities: Research Internship, visited China
Other
State (if domestic applicant): Mississippi
Country (if international applicant):U.S.
School Type: Public, highly competitive
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: F
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):none
one rec will be amazing, the other will be ok
Will be applying to the School of Engineering
List of Schools (correct me if I’m wrong)
UPenn (Early Decision)- Dream
Brown- Dream
Columbia- Unrealistic Dream
Cornell- Reach (legacy)
Johns Hopkins- High Reach
Carnegie Mellon- High Reach
NYU- Low Reach
University of Rochester- High match
UC Berkeley- Reach
UCLA- Reach
Case Western- Match
**Money isn’t an issue but it would be nice to have a merit scholarship of some sort ** emphasis added
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so, your parents have recently told you that money is an issue.
What is your new list of schools.
Do you realize that your parents will NOT pay for you to apply to all those schools since they won’t let you attend or pay for them?
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do not think I would be able to take out such a big loan (considering the costs of a private or public out of state college).
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You are right. You can only borrow $5,500 as a frosh. to borrow more, your parents would have to cosign, which they wouldn’t do.
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My parents, my mother especially, have never agreed with me on anything since I was very young. I do not want to live near them for the rest of my life. I've waited years to get out, and the possibility of moving out for college is the light at the end.
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We really need clarity. You say that you don’t live with your parents, so what is the need to “get away”? You are already “away”?
Or are you saying that your parents living CLOSE to the family that you are living with?
Have you been REMOVED legally from the family home? Are you now in foster care or similar? If so, then perhaps you can become an independent student for FA purposes.
Not wishing to be nosy, but with $400,000 in annual income, will the parents pay for college? If not, why not?
Will they give the OP the amount an instate public costs to attend elsewhere? Or do the “parents” expect this student to attend college in Mississippi because it could likely be extremely low cost?
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The parents will happily pay for their son to attend an ivy or elite when HE goes to college. However, the parents don’t think it’s important for girls to get a “fancy education”.
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But I have a half brother who is two years younger than me who my parents want to pay for to go to an ivy. My parents believe it's more important for boys to get an education, and they haven't really supported me through high school academics.
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Also, the OP notes that her sibling is a half-sibling, and that she doesn’t get along with her mother. If there is also an issue that the “big income” parent is really a step-parent, then that may also be a problem.
This is getting confusing. There is a family she lives with. Then there are the “bio parents”…but it sounds like only one of those parents is a bio parent and the other is a step-parent. Which parent is the step-parent?
It sounds like the father (bio or step) is the big income parent. Is this person your bio-dad or stepdad?
For the list posted above…it doesn’t matter for need based aid purposes. Everyone will get to complete the Profile one way or another…for need based aid.
This student could get a full ride at some schools (already posted upstream more than once).
OP, it may not be your dream, but follow the money. If your stats get you a full COA merit ride in-state and you can stay on campus then go for it. Get a part-time job, stay in cheapest dorm, etc and you may get back some overage money every semester. My D did, especially when she bought her own food instead of meal plan. Along with working in the summer, D end college with no debt and a years (of her colleges) COA in savings. Then got accepted to grad school (Ivy) with tuition paid and stipend. Having savings from undergrad is going to make it very affordable. It’s hard, but think long term and let go of fact that parents will pay for S but not you to go away.
You have been given a list of OOS schools that would give you good merit - UofSC is another based on your stats, but if parents won’t budge on letting you OOS then fair or not that’s what you’re working with and chances are you won’t change their minds. You can be a star at one of the in-state schools and you will have a lot of the same opportunities as if you had gone to “top” school or Ivy. In fact you may have more options and get more attention somewhere where you’re a top student than when you are just average.
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@mom2collegekids Yes, Ole Miss is my local school. I'm pretty sure I will receive NMF (PSAT: 229)
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I will most likely not qualify for financial aid, and my family is fine paying for it as long it’s a really good school.
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Then, today, she wrote: “When I first created my college list, I had not yet discussed it with my parents.”
This is why we ask kids these questions and we PUSH to make sure that they have actually TALKED to their parents, and haven’t just “assumed”. Here the student says that the parents are “fine” with paying. Obviously, her parents never said that.
I’m not saying this to be harsh to the student. I’m really noting it for others reading this thread, because kids do assume a lot, and then later parents TELL them differently. Always talk details with parents FIRST.
Jessica lives a few miles away from Ole Miss. So, logically, if the parents want her to stay “instate”, then rationally she should be able to go to any “cost similar” school that is within the number of miles between Ole Miss and Southern Miss…right? Southern Miss is about 200 miles away from Ole Miss, it’s about 3 hours away.
So, Jessica, will your parents allow you to go to a school that is OOS, but within 3 hours of Ole Miss?
My gut tells me that when your parents say that you can’t go OOS, they mean that you can’t go to a NE school or a west coast school because those are 1000+ miles away…but they would be ok with you going to a school that is within a few hours from home.
Please don’t assume, ask them.
So is cost the issue or distance or both?
Who’s laying down what constraints?