I was surprised my girlfriend was deferred from Columbia ED

<p>She was deferred a long time ago now, of course, as she applied to Columbia ED I. If she doesn't get into Columbia she says she'll probably just go to NYU. Do you think her NYC residency hurts her at all? Also, do you think she still has a chance to get in after being deferred? These were her stats, by the way.</p>

<p>4-year average: 97.23 (only 2 people in our class of 51 had a 4-year average over 92)
Rank: 1/51 (this is what her rank would have been but my school doesn't rank)
SAT I: 730 CR, 730 Math, 770 Writing (2230 total)
SAT IIs: 790 Bio, 770 Spanish (She should have taken a Math - she would have aced it)
APs: 5 for European History, 5 for Bio, 4 for Spanish. She's currently taking classes for AP Chem, AP Calculus, and AP English.
Recommendations: They must have been fantastic.
ECs: Editor-n-Chief of School Newspaper, Chem Club, Spanish Club and a brief stint with Model UN.</p>

<p>For the record, she wants to be a doctor (like her parents). She had a 100 average for AP Bio last year and has a 99 average for AP Chem this year, two very difficult classes.</p>

<p>Ultimately, she probably was not accepted because her ECs did not stand out. Still, should this be surprising that a student of such high calibur should not be accepted to Columbia Early Decision?</p>

<p>Let me get this straight.......Columbia deferred her and she just assumes NYU is going to take her? I guess she doesn't get it does she?</p>

<p>You really don't think she'll get into NYU? I know NYU is a very good school with a lot of very qualified students, but I seriously doubt that she would not be accepted to NYU. I guess it's possible, but unlikely.</p>

<p>Also an additional note, my girlfriend and I both took a summer course at NYU for Sociology and both got grades of A-.</p>

<p>So you are saying that you think she is a shoo in huh? Have you read their stats lately????</p>

<p>Yeah, I think she's probably a shoe-in.</p>

<p>First of all, colleges completely and utterly lie about their stats. It's true that NYU has a low acceptance rate (I believe just below 30%), but their report that their mid-SAT range of 1310-1440 seems kind of fishey. They also claim that their average GPA is around a 3.6.</p>

<p>In any case, even if that was their mid SAT range, she still has a 1460 on the SAT I to go along with 770 on the Writing, 790 on the Bio, and 770 on the Spanish not to mention mostly 5s on her AP exams. And her 4-year average of 97.23 is really outstanding, (It's pretty much a 4.0 GPA).</p>

<p>So, if she's not a shoe-in for NYU, I don't know who is.</p>

<p>You seem to be quite knowledgeable..........</p>

<p>Well, jee, thanks.</p>

<p>Hey let us know if you both end up at NYU.</p>

<p>Sure, I will. I applied to NYU, although I'm not nearly as qualified as she is (2020 SAT, 90 average). If it weren't for her, NYU would not be my first choice. And as much as I love my girlfriend, I don't know if it's the best move to go to a college just because that's where she's going (incase things don't work out in the longrun). Still, the idea of going to the same college with her is just a bit irresistable... Just like she is...</p>

<p>NYU is not that hard to get into. This girl is above their 75% cutoff, and she is valedictorian. Mediocre kids from my class got into NYU. If this girl gets rejected I will never post on CC again.</p>

<p>I don't know why this girl isn't looking at Brown, Penn, etc. Columbia to NYU is a big drop.</p>

<p>I know, slipper, I told her that. She's also applying to Cornell and a couple of other decent schools, but for some reason she just doesn't want to leave New York. She wants to stay close to home, and she loves Manhattan. In my heart though I know she would excel in any Ivy League school; she's so incredibly smart. She's a science genius and yet she's a beautiful writer. Some people may have higher SAT scores, but not many people have what she has.</p>

<p>I definitely think she's a shoo-in, and I wouldn't be surprised if she got some merit aid to boot!</p>

<p>I hope she has been communicating with Columbia since her deferal with updated information about her grades, etc. and to let them know Columbia is still her first choice.</p>

<p>I think NYU is a match for her; but not a safety. I think schools like NYU aren't really safeties to many. Also, you're right, it was probably her EC's that kept her out of Columbia. Best of luck to you both ;-)</p>

<p>Hyrule,</p>

<p>Did she apply to Barnard? She is pretty much a match/ safe match there. NYC is great but the other schools (like Brown, Vassar, Penn) are so close you can go home practically on the weekends. It sounds like she will excel anywhere, but I wouldn't sell herself short just to stay in NYC.</p>

<p>Yes, she applied to Barnard. She also applied to Vassar. But she didn't apply to schools such as Brown and UPenn, even though she should have.</p>

<p>She says that she wishes she had my legacy factor for Columbia. My father went to Columbia grad school, my uncle went to columbia undergrad, my cousin went to columbia grad, my aunt went to barnard when columbia was still all men and barnard all women, and my brother spent a semester at columbia. </p>

<p>But her parents are Russian immigrants (she was actually born in Russia). Legacy factor for a school like Columbia matters little anyway.</p>

<p>Based on stats alone, it'd be a little surprising if your g/f didn't get into NYU. NYU's rep has been going up alot recently, but your g/f's stats are amazing. And word on the streets is that NYU admissions are based very much on stats (at least for CAS and Stern).</p>

<p>NYU is really different from Columbia.. that's weird that NYU's her second choice.. unless she just really wants to stay in NYC.</p>

<p>I'm surprised too. Proves that the admission doesn't look at only GPA, rank, and test scores.</p>

<p>Actually, Hyrule, it might make her feel better to know that, by Columbia standards, you are not a legacy. They define it as only the parents, and only if they were undergrad. If she doesn't get in there, she looks very good for Barnard. And NYU is a fine school; it's not an unexceptable "drop" from Columbia.</p>

<p>u know whats really messed up, how that kid hazmat is talking as if he's an nyu admissions officer or something...thats just messed up if he actually is and he's purposely going to reject you</p>

<p>but i made all of that up</p>

<p>no i think hazmat is correct, nyu is not a given for anyone, no matter how high standardized tests are</p>