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<p>hey - you are the one here who defended driving under the influence and said you do it often.</p>
<p>debrockman-just a note, my sister is going to be a teacher, but we don’t have any college savings for her…unless there are some miracles(she’s not terribly smart, but she works very hard), she will be going to a local state u(commuting) and will still go at least 28k in debt…
It will take her a LONG time to pay that off, and she’ll be doing it herself because we don’t have a safety net</p>
<p>Give us some credit, debrockman. Many of us have a lot of education and are, perhaps, even smart enough to realize that the state schools are excellent preparation for a teaching career AND make the most sense financially. We have also stated that if med/law school is in the cards, it makes sense to choose a low cost undergraduate option. You aren’t the only “successful professional” posting here.</p>
<p>Uh-oh :eek: did someone mention college kids drinking??? I thought we had banned that subject from CC</p>
<p>No- berryberry is mis-stating (again) my posts. He thinks I’m an alcoholic. Hey-how else would I fuel my marathon training?</p>
<p>Rocket-- she might be able to get a lot of loan forgiveness for that. And, depending on where she wants to teach, she might even be able to get some of that payed for.</p>
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<p>Once again you are making no sense - it appears you simply are trying to constantly attack me because you don’t like my opinion. you can’t refute the argument so you resort to some sort of juvenile namecalling. Quite sad</p>
<p>^^thanks poetgrl, I will be sure to bring these up to her. She’s already worried about paying for school</p>
<p>MOWC-- I actually AM a recovering alcholic (for decades.) My D is a marathon runner. It’s a common genetic link. 
But I’d hardly begrudge her a beer or a glass of wine if she wanted.</p>
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<p>So in a thread here you were not defending DUI and not admitting that you have driven under the influence several times because in your opinion the legal limit of .8 was too low and really didn’t indicate someone was impaired?</p>
<p>“I just challenge them to the idea that they are more elite or more intelligent.”</p>
<p>They’re often not. But they often DO have more vision and more guts to come up to par with kids who have parents like you. And not to worry - they can also smell the resentment from parents like you a mile away ;)</p>
<p>^^berryberry that doesn’t relate to the topic, please take it to a PM or a new thread</p>
<p>(and no, I’m not just picking on you, I yelled at mudge and jym earlier)</p>
<p>katliamom-sometimes I think kids with a “chip on their shoulder” are the ones who end up changing the world…they want it bad and know how to find a way to succeed, no matter the odds</p>
<p>What I said was that the young man in question was an underage drinker but we had no way to know (on the forum) if he was driving impaired. I thought he should be kept out of the system while having appropriate consequences. Let’s not rehash that here.
Wouldn’t you rather discuss YOUR extra-curriculars?</p>
<p>Rocket-- I really think there’s a lot of stuff out there to pay for people willing to teach in certain areas. She should look into this. But, I think there are new laws in the pipelines to get loan forgiveness for people who go into public service like teaching. I hope she tries for Math or Science since those are the most employable teaching positions. Good luck to you both.</p>
<p>My SIL who wasn’t the world’s best student, ended up in teaching, and then had her PhD paid for and is currently a principle of a girls school. She loves it, though she really hated school when she was young.</p>
<p>Actually, I think that past success is the best indicator of future success.<br>
Yabe, truthfully I think you just gave a pretty inaccurate picture of what caused our financial collapse. It was largely caused by a loosening of regulations by Congress on how much money one had to have to buy a house…led by Harvardite Barney Frank. That led to a housing boom funded entirely by debt. Obviously home builders are going to build if someone is approved to buy. Then those crappy mortgages were bundled together by the wizards of wall street, turning what once was the safest investment, mortgaged backed securities…into toilet paper. And of course, there was Harvard educated Franklin Raines expecting the Fed to back that toilet paper with government resources.</p>
<p>rocket6louise - in case you hadn’t noticed, this thread has moved off the topic long ago and there are a number of posts by some folks that make no sense or have no relevance to the topic</p>
<p>^regardless, I always ask people to TRY to keep topical (I know this is CC and this almost never happens :))</p>
<p>Actually, the collapse was caused by Greenspan’s belief in financial bubbles, and when the tech bubble collapsed he needed another one to avert the financial collapse and the lowered interest rates and commensurate money flowing into the system created a housing bubble out of the new “everyone needs a house” policy both parties were in love with.</p>
<p>rocket…my daughter has a friend who is poor as a church mouse. Our state now has a program of loan forgiveness to educators who teach in underserved communities. I think that is awesome. I suspect that if your sister would be willing to serve in that way, as poetgrl says, she will owe little, if anything.</p>
<p>^thanks again to you and poetgrl, I will be sure to pass this along to my sister. She would teach ANYWHERE if it means she can start to pay off her debt</p>