@neela1, I’m not nervous, I don’t carry any soup period, but they have to check everybody at the entrance for a can of soup, that makes the line longer.
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People are talking about their antics not what they’re supposedly fighting for. It’s about their ego not their cause. Nothing laudable anywhere in their actions.
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Just read this.
Ridiculous. Lock ‘em up.
The cause is not ridiculous. The action, to me, is.
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I hope the police make them clean up the mess afterwards and not the employees.
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That is not enough punishment. Research is being done how to raise cattle more environmentally friendly. Ranchers are turning to native grass that needs less water to feed cattle. Some are exploring ways to use cattle waste. The earth has over 8 billion mouths to feed. If they all turn vegetarian/vegan, do we have enough to feed? Do we have to cut down trees to expand farm land to produce enough? In my experience, it is easier to satisfy hunger with meat. Chicken stacked in a chicken coop is the most environmentally friendly way to produce food. Farming fish is also good. It can reduce overfishing in the wild starving penguins.
Agreed - all good.
Yep, and nope. The cows eat more than the humans would, not to mention the water needed. That said, I’m not convinced going vegetarian or vegan is the best for humans considering we’re omnivores, so I’m glad about the first part I quoted.
I don’t know if it’s environmentally friendly, but it’s horrible for the chickens. We always buy Certified Humane when we have to buy eggs and we rarely buy chicken as meat except at restaurants (where I know they use factory farm raised unfortunately). When at home, deer is our most common meat. We eat vegetarian a fair bit. We have our own chickens for most of our eggs. When the kids lived here, we used them for meat too. At least the chickens had a life prior to dying for us.
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Agreed. Once again they are turning more people off their cause than on to it - and causing more emissions in the process, going totally against what they say they want.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/10/16/britain-climate-activists-bill-police-powers/
Increasing police powers to curb disruptive action. Will it pass?
The protestors have been arrested for aggravated trespass and criminal damage. They’re currently in custody at a central London police station,
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Van Gogh was Dutch, right? Was that part of this? The climate and rising water and the dykes thing, or maybe windmills or wind power? Or sunflowers as solar collectors? Or perhaps the soup is symbolic somehow, or the fact that it was tomato.
Either I am doing this wrong or they have completely muddled messaging. I got a feeling it’s not all me.
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This is also more laughable
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So they were scientists and somehow thought putting superglue on their hands would be fine?
Personally, I think how this was handled was great.
I’m pro-climate (as most of you probably know), but not pro-lunacy. Antics like these don’t help the cause at all.
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What? They did not like that the lights and heat were turned off when the business closed for the day? Someone mentioned food delivered? Shaking my head. Don’t they know that keeping lights and heat on at night In an empty building increases carbon emissions? And let’s hope that food was delivered by bicycle or on foot… some climate activists!
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At least the Volkswagen workers in response to their requests for food didn’t throw tomato soup on them per the precedent set at the National Gallery.
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Did anyone read the Andreas Malm opinion piece about the soup incident?
When I read this thread I was nodding my head with you guys, but then I skimmed that NY Times essay and it changed my mind. I realized it’s easy to make fun of absurd and foolish tactics that seem pointless, but it is kind a a shame that our knee-jerk response tends towards condemnation, when these kids basically didn’t harm anything or anyone (painting was under glass). They’re passionate about their deadly serious cause, but didn’t hurt anyone. Contrast that with other folks who are deadly serious about their causes: like Jan 6 insurrectionists, or people who shoot women’s health doctors (twice I’ve lived in communities with incidents involving pro-lifers targeting OB-GYNs - one doctor died, the other got lucky and didn’t).
As Malm says in his essay: climate change is killing people. But the soup vandals didn’t even hurt anyone. So there’s that.
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Not so harmless here from the daily mail.
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What do they have against mashed potato?
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This is turning into a real food fight! Waiting for the split pea soup on a Picasso.
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There was an auto-related one last week too. Nine people glued themselves to the floor at the Porsche Pavilion in Autostadt, the visitor attraction opposite the Volkswagen factory in Wolfsburg, Germany. After they were allowed to spend the night, and after the police came to take them away, they decided it was time to go.
The protesters complained about the poor “conditions” they were put in, when Autostadt staff turned off the lights and the heating at the end of the workday. They complained that the premise was shut off and supporters couldn’t get in to bring them food, so they had to contend with the food VW brought for them. They complained about the glue on their hands (which they had placed there, in case you need reminding), and then said that VW denied them medical assistance. They said VW refused them basic needs by not providing them with bowls to urinate in. They complained of “random” security checks throughout the night, which kept them from getting a proper night’s sleep. Autoevolution.com: Gluing Yourself to the Porsche Floor and Then Complaining About Conditions Is Bad Activism
I’m not sure what else was hoped for. They were left there, they got attention and food, and then the police came and everyone was on the news: sounds like a perfect weekend.
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They were hungry and thirsty. They might have appreciated the soup.
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