If the small envelope comes...

<p>If you read my post for EA about this then you pretty much know what I will say but with all of the new people and visitors that will come to this forum I always like to post this information for their benefit. Please forgive me, I know many of you have seen this post a lot since I write a new version of it twice a year.</p>

<p>I know how crushing a rejection letter from Notre Dame can be, especially when it is your dream school. I know this because at home I have a rejection letter from Notre Dame. When rejection comes it is really hard to understand what to go and what you do now. What I am here to tell you is that the rejection letter only determines one year of your life, it does NOT determine if you will be successful or not or where you will end up. How do I know this? Because I was rejected from Notre Dame and now am a junior at Notre Dame.</p>

<p>I will keep this thread short because a lot of what I would say here can now be found at my website: <a href="http://www.nd.edu/%7Emnadorff/transfer%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nd.edu/~mnadorff/transfer&lt;/a> Check it out and it should answer most of your questions but if not feel free to PM or email me.</p>

<p>I just wanted to let you know or remind you that in the long run, the letter you get today or tomorrow really doesn't change anything. It doesn't change who you are or your value as a person certainly. It also doesn't change where you will go to college other than for that first year. I am a firm believer that IF YOU WANT IT BADLY ENOUGH then most anyone can transfer into Notre Dame if they take the proper steps to do so. </p>

<p>Rejection is hard, I will not tell you it isn't because I hated Notre Dame for almost a full year after I was rejected. Yet, I always worked towards my goal to attend Notre Dame, even while I hated it because I was hurt (it is hard to understand how you can want something so badly and work for it so hard and have it not happen for you...it is tough). I just wanted to let you know that in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't change anything. There have been people who have come before you who have worked hard and transferred, and if that is the road you choose to take, it can be done. Again, if you want this badly enough, it can happen. </p>

<p>Just one more bit of food for thought; being rejected by Notre Dame was one of the best things that has ever happened for me. By having to go to Creighton for a year I met a lot of wonderful people and I learned a lot about myself. I learned how to truly work hard (I honestly didn't know how in high school) and I learned that if I truly want something that I can do some amazing things. I matured a lot through the experience and I wouldn't change any of it. That is why I still have my rejection letter and it is in the same frame as my acceptance letter (but behind it of course). It is a tough letter to get (and I hate the wording of ND's acceptance letter) but I tell you I don't know of a single letter that has done more for me that is positive.</p>

<p>Anyways, take some time to look at your options and to start figuring out where you go from here. Take a look at my website and please feel free to get in touch. For the most part I am just going to be around this weekend so I will be able to respond to PM's and emails and while busy I will be around next week as well. Just get in touch if you have any questions! Good luck and please try to remember that you still have the control over the situation... I am a dean's list student at ND and I got a rejection letter, why can't you do the same?</p>

<p>Irish:</p>

<p>You always say such encouraging things - thanks!</p>

<p>As for the small envelope - my daughter's acceptance at Villanova came in a small envelope. Good things CAN come in small packages.</p>

<p>lol, this is true. ND just has always been a big envelope school, however.</p>

<p>I made a big mistake. I applied to the architecture program but failed to send in any kind of portfolio. I got waitlisted, but I thought I had a really good chance of getting in. Now, I am trying to show ND that I am very interested and that I will do anything to get in. Same goes for Cornell.</p>

<p>hey irish 68178, when i got my acceptance letter from nd, it was the most beautiful thing i ever read. why did you hate they way they worded it</p>

<p>All I remember is how you didn't even have to open the letter. The clear plastic opening on the envelope for the address block on the letter was offset in such a way that the word "congratulations" was clearly able to be read without even opening the envelope. </p>

<p>Personally, on the subject of the the acceptance letter I didn't have a problem...now the ND commercials being run in the fall. Words fail me for how to describe those things.</p>

<p>NOT THE ACCEPTANCE LETTER GUYS, I hated the REJECTION letter. It basically says you are everything we look for in a student, you should be proud, you still can't come but good luck in life :). UGH! I have nothing against the acceptance letter; I have mine framed.</p>

<p>Rejection has an immediate sting which thankfully fades with time. Good luck to all.</p>

<p>Can anyone show some kindness to a parent who is website challenged and doesn't know how or where to start a new thread?</p>

<p>would you rather the letter tell you that you're a failure or too bad or something along those lines? Remember society today is all about positivitely and constructive feedback. We need to build up self-esteem because people's psyches are fragile...</p>

<p>I know about positive feedback, I am a psychology major. I just want a sincere letter. I know the applicants are strong, I get that, but don't tell me that I am perfect ND material and then reject me. Tell me that the applicants were strong and unfortunately I just didn't make it. Perhaps it is harsh, but I like it Charlie Weis style...just tell me like it is. Maybe that is just me, however, and everyone else likes to think that ND loved them in every way but rejected them randomly. I don't know, but it doesn't really matter since I am here now.</p>

<p>oh I hear you...my previous post was my being rather sarcastic. Personally I would have the letter read something a little more genuine. But then again they don't want to offend anyone. Hmmm...if the person didn't get in, do you think they are really going to notice if the letter is super polite. I doubt it, they're prob going to be a little upset....</p>

<p>It is amazing that I kept the darn thing but I did and it is now framed right behind my acceptance letter... it is kind of fun to pull it out every now and again and remark... "you know, they were right." All depends on how you look at it I suppose.</p>