If you are an ORM, think twice, thrice about writing checks to boarding schools. Your chances of getting into good colleges are much better from your local public schools. The people that mostly get into good colleges from boarding schools are people of money (pom), athletes, and URM. ORM are held to a much higher standard for college admissions (this is not news, of course), so it makes it that much harder for them to get into a good college from BS as it is much harder to stand out that it is at a public school. These conclusions are drawn after several years of observing the college admissions of BS students. So if you are an ORM, save the money and in the process improve your chances of getting into a good college. Heed this advice, if not come back in four years and tell us what happened. There may be people on this board that have a stake in BS, they will come in to paint a rosy picture of BS, that would be fine if you are pom, athletes, and URM. Know that 63% of Princeton admits this year came from public schools.
Most of the admits to ANY college, selective or otherwise, come from public schools.
Yawn.
You may well be right. We are not ORM or URM so IDK.
But your last line is faulty analysis. Only 10% of high school kids are in private school> About 7.5% of that 10% is parochial school, which a priori is not dramatically more rigorous than many public schools. And far smaller portion is in BS.
But even if we look at private and parochial together, 10% of the population is taking 37% of the spots, that tells you private /parochial school is totally worth it.
And, i don’t have the numbers, but my guess is that the math of how many Gladchemms get in vs their share of the total HS population is probably even more compelling. So if Gladchems are less than 1% of the HS population, and i am sure they are, how much of the 37% are they taking?
The fact is, though, it is true, most Gladchemms kids dont get into Ivies. The odds are against anyone at all getting in to ivy league … and getting lower every day.
But the odds are better from private for sure, and probably best from BS.
I agree “the odds are against everyone.”
For everyone not just ORM, BS probably lowers the chances of getting into selective colleges and
everyone should know that they should not choose BS as a path to getting into a certain college.
OTOH, there are plenty of ORMs (with or without money) who matriculate to selective colleges from BS.
@payn4ward, That’s the point I’m trying to make. If you have money, that opens doors. Hopefully you still have money left to pay for college after paying for BS. If you are an ORM without money, may the power be with you. People new to the BS world may misinterpret all the good matriculations to better education at BS.
This is the math of BS matriculations:
- They choose rich people from Hong Kong, they get into good colleges as their competition is their other countrymen that didn't go to BS in the US.
- Rich and Famous. BSs mostly babysit them and send them off to Ivys.
- Legacies
- Athletes
- URM
These categories are pre-chosen during BS admissions to make their college matriculations look good. So new parents look at these results, get excited, and continue to apply. The cycle continues.
So you can save a lot of money by going to public schools because a good student will do well at either a public school or a BS.
@payn4ward I agree with you for the most part, but I am not sure BS significantly lowers one’s chance of getting into selective colleges compared with public schools. It may be true in a place outside the ultra competitive NE and east coast in general, but if you are fighting your chances in a good to excellent suburban public school in the same area, I don’t think it’d be much easier than from a mid to top tier BS. I am not sure about the local day schools. The competitive ones are essentially the same as other top schools. The less competitive ones seem to do a little better than public schools in general, and may be easier than BS?
I don’t think it lowers “significantly.” What I meant to say was the general wisdom that it is more difficult to stand out at a BS (especially if the student is coming from a non-competitive region.) The BS college counseling probably compensates for it so it may be a wash.
A good student will do well after either a public state college or an Ivy.
If asked, I would choose a private high school then an in-state university rather than a public school then an Ivy. YMMV.
@payn4ward,The difference between “a private high school then an in-state university rather than a public school then an Ivy” is $200K+. Your notion of private high school is better is the myth I’m trying to dispel from extensive observations of the system. If you have $200K+ to throw around, yes by all means.
Again, if it weren’t worth it at all, then the 10% in private (and really far less in competitive private, since most of it is parochial), would not be taking 37% of Princeton’s spots! They would take 10% of Princeton’s spots.
You are stating a fact that, rather than support your subjective argument, totally refutes it.
Cheese you all miss my simple point. Look at my list of who is taking the spots.
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