If you attend Stuyvesant High School...

<p>pshh Stuyvesant high is nothing compared to Korean</a> Minjok Leadership Academy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>

<p>The entire student body's average SAT scores is 2250 and English is foreign language for them. They have the highest SAT scores in the world and over 30% of their entire student body get into ivy schools as internationals. Also selected by collegeboard as the world's best school in the AP program.</p>

<p>Stuyvesant is a public school.. korean minjok leadership academy is a private school..</p>

<p>Our school has the school news then it goes to channel one....Its like 20 mins of free time for the whole school!!</p>

<p>oh well, KMLA is more amazing than best of any US high schools schools haha.</p>

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The cost of yearly attendance is about $15,000. Financial aid is limited, and most of financial aid is merit-based to some extent. The school in turn spends more than $30,000 per student per year.

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<p>Some rich kid school. Hardly amazing for the money they've got.</p>

<p>yeah, well...pbbt. I feel like I need to show some school pride.</p>

<p>High</a> Technology High School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>

<p>w00tness! public elite! 7th in nation! yeah!</p>

<p>Cono, Middlesex School and Concord Academy in Massachusetts, Hotchkiss School in Connecticut and Lawrenceville School in New Jersey--all charge more than $30,000 a year.</p>

<p>Many US private schools have more money than KLMA. In any case, if you didn't realize, english is foreign language for KLMA students and scoring average of 2250s on SATs when english is foreign language is just amazing. Also if you look at KLMA's school website, their math sequence is pretty intense. Many kids take AP Calc BC freshmen year and take courses like linear algebra, differential equations, numerical analysis, number theory, vector calculus, and other college level math courses in school.</p>

<p>never had channel one...so sad :(</p>

<p>yay public schools! yay for an SAT average of 1950!!</p>

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Cono, Middlesex School and Concord Academy in Massachusetts, Hotchkiss School in Connecticut and Lawrenceville School in New Jersey--all charge more than $30,000 a year.</p>

<p>Many US private schools have more money than KLMA. In any case, if you didn't realize, english is foreign language for KLMA students and scoring average of 2250s on SATs when english is foreign language is just amazing. Also if you look at KLMA's school website, their math sequence is pretty intense. Many kids take AP Calc BC freshmen year and take courses like linear algebra, differential equations, numerical analysis, number theory, vector calculus, and other college level math courses in school.

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<p>Those are all rich kid schools too. It's all the same. </p>

<p>And since you like the school so much, you should learn a bit more about the type of students that go there. Many many of them are actually native English speakers, just like Korean. AND they're educated in it! So it's really just your average 'elite' school.</p>

<p>How is that school just an average "elite" school? Their academics beat that of any other school in the world. And considering they send 30%+ to ivys in US as INTERNATIONALS, KLMA is far from average. It is not all the same.</p>

<p>Also they live in Korea. How are they native English speakers? Just because you are educated in a foreign language since you are young (English is a mandatory subject in Korea starting from 3rd grade) does not make a Korean student a native English speaker. These kids also have Korean accents in their English.</p>

<p>hello KMLA is for the best in the NATION. Yeah its really hard. So I kinda expect that. I have high standards for Korean people. A good school like that is obviously mad expensive=parents are mad loaded. They speak ENGLISH there. They have an EOP; an English ONLY POLICY. If you're caught using Korean even in the dorms, they have this scary long brochure you have to memorize. They even have security cameras to make sure students aren't falling asleep durign the wee hours of like 2 AM XD. I wanna go there. </p>

<p>Heh. according to WSJ, KLMA is ranked 30 something as an ivy feeder. Collegiate School ranked #1 with like 33% or something of their school alums in ivies. XD. My school ranked like 19th or something. w/e. point is KMLA is not normal. Stuy on the other hand was ranked below KMLA and my school. Stuy has a lot of $, but not that many smart people in my opinion. They have a class of ~800 students a year. So they've got mad resources. Personally I don't think Stuy's too hard to get into. Whereas a comparative school which I am not going to name here has an applicant pool of 2000 otu of 7 million students in NYC. Where only ~200 are admitted a year, actually 170ish because of elementary school, but w/e. That school kiddies write mad nice yo. They got like crazy Scholastic gold keys if that school was #1 in Scholastic writing awards overall I wouldn't be suprised. >.<
And back to KMLA:
Plus there was this other article in NYTimes yesterday about KMLA and Daewon Foreign Language School. They're friggin crazy. Sorry for those of you who think "crazy" is offensive. My dad uses it all the time and I'm like huh? and he's like crazy=have to work mad hard to keep your head above the water. </p>

<p><3 Koreans lolz!!!!! I find them mad funny as well.</p>

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Also they live in Korea. How are they native English speakers? Just because you are educated in a foreign language since you are young (English is a mandatory subject in Korea starting from 3rd grade) does not make a Korean student a native English speaker. These kids also have Korean accents in their English.

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<p>When I said native speaker, I meant native speaker. I speak several languages, I think I know the difference... Speaking with a different accent doesn't mean you can't be a native speaker.</p>

<p>English is spoken all over the world; much of it natively. An American accent isn't the only one...</p>

<p>you don't need to speak english to do well on the SAT. You need to know the rules of grammar (you can get a 2 on the essay and still get around a 700 with perfect MC), basic algebra and geometry, and understand questions on passages regarding tone, diction, and syntax. Korean schools are also reputed for their rote memorization/drilling techniques for testing, as well as the use of in-class time and grades dedicated to standardized test prep. if you had a class period every day to study for the SAT, would you do better?</p>

<p>Cono, I don't think you know what being a native speaker means.</p>

<p>Native speakers are people who live in countries where the language in question is the official language of the country or is spoken widely enough to be considered one. In Korea, no matter how much English is taught, English will always be a foreign language. On the contrary, people who live in Philippines and India speak English natively (with their own accents). You said you know several languages, I find it hard to believe that you didn't know this.</p>

<p>enderkin, KLMA does not offer SAT classes. The kids probably go to hagwons (like most students in Korea do) to prep for standardized tests. enderkin, let's say that you can do that for writing part of the SAT. But what about critical reading? Rote memorization and drilling can get you only so far. You do need mastery of English language to do well on the SAT.</p>

<p>well, his point of them not having to speak well still stands.</p>

<p>though there's a difference between speaking and knowing English, which render the point rather irrelevant anyhow.</p>

<p>"Stuyvesant is not all that special. Its a mediocre school filled with mediocre kids. There was a news report on this."</p>

<p>Umm... No. It's one of the most competitive in the country.</p>

<p>Mike, I think that poster was joking. Haha...</p>

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enderkin, KLMA does not offer SAT classes. The kids probably go to hagwons (like most students in Korea do) to prep for standardized tests.

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This is one of the most expensive preparatory schools in Korea. I highly doubt that these kids don't have access to SAT classes in some manner. That would be like saying that Exeter's students don't take SAT classes.</p>

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enderkin, let's say that you can do that for writing part of the SAT. But what about critical reading? Rote memorization and drilling can get you only so far. You do need mastery of English language to do well on the SAT.

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<p>Rote memorization can get you very, very far when it comes to standardized testing. The CR section is the hardest section to use rote memorization, but it is still mechanical. You read the passage and answer some questions. Guaranteed, 3 of the questions are concerning words and their usage within context. Guaranteed, 2 of the questions are about tone, and 4 more about the 'meaning' of certain phrases. Bam, that's 9 questions out of a section. If you can pick those out, then your CR score will be pretty damn high. </p>

<p>Understanding the mechanics of English is a far cry from mastery of the language itself. The SAT tests mechanics. There's a difference between being able to read/write English and being able to speak it.</p>

<p>No I was not joking. I go to one of the 3 original specialized hs's (stuy, bx sci, or bk tech, i wont say which one but I am familiar with all 3) and believe me they are all mediorce and hyped.</p>