<p>What major are you applying for? That makes a big difference for transfers at the UC's. Some, like the Haas School of business at Berkeley, are very hard for ALL transfer students, both instate and out. That said, admission for transfer students from out of state is very iffy at all of the UC's because they are required by state law to first give preference to transfers from Calif. community colleges. Once they've accepted all eligible CC transfers, they move on to considering transfer applications from California residents. I know enough disappointed California residents who tried to transfer into the UC system to tell you that even they find the going uphill. Finally, the UC's consider out of state transfers. I have talked with someone in admissions at the UC system and they said they take very few out of state transfers, and almost none in certain impacted majors at the more popular UCs. Bottomline, there's nothing wrong with giving it a try - perhaps you'll beat the odds and come back and tell us all how wrong we are - but you should also have a solid back up plan. Best of luck!</p>
<p>Munkeegirl, if you don't believe Mikemac about out of state costs topping $40,000, perhaps you'll believe the UC admissions website: <a href="http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/payingforuc/costs.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/admissions/payingforuc/costs.html</a>
Apparently, you didn't see the part about adding the extra $18,150 for out of state residents in. (Residents of California pay $22,150). </p>
<p>Keep in mind that housing costs at some UCs are higher than others and that financial aid for out of state students is very, very limited. Additionally, merit awards for out of state transfers are also very limited.</p>
<p>Finally, don't expect to be able to become a resident after a year and get the in-state rate. The UC's make it very difficult to do. You can find the requirements at the same site above.</p>
<p>lolz everyone , especially this year really wants to get into the UC's</p>
<p>other private schools in CA: (besides Stanford) USC, Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Harvey Mudd. (the last three are fairly small schools)</p>
<p>hello2u: hey um.. you think ill make USC's cut with my stats?.. i think its a good school to fall back on if ever UCLA or Cal won't accept me as a transfer from this hellhole out of state illinois.. as for the rest of the schools you mentioned.. i havent heard of them.. think i'll stick with the UC's and USC.. you think i'll make USC? thanks</p>
<p>carolyn: aw man. you're too honest! haha yeah, i know i have a slim cahnce of getting into the UC's.. you think my stats wont be enough? i really want to make UCLA's or Cal's cut but, like you said, its completely rational for me to get rejected.. considering the fact that even californians struggle to get into the UC's.. say, what UC's do you think will consider me as a transfer. ill be majoring in history or political science.. and um, think USC's a good school to consider if the UC's reject my sorry ass? thanks</p>
<p>Knix,
As the old lottery commercials said "You have to be in it to win it." I didn't say don't apply to Cal or UCLA -- give it a shot, you never know.
But, do have a back up plan if getting to California is your goal. You might take a look at UC Santa Barbara, UC Davis, and UC Santa Cruz for history and political science (UC Davis has a particularly strong political science department). USC would also probably welcome an application from a transfer with a 3.96 GPA, and being from out of state would be an advantage, not a disadvantage there. However, there are better schools in California if you're interested in history and political science than USC (no flames from USC fans please), although USC is a great school. For political science and history, you REALLY should check out Claremont McKenna - they have one of the best undergraduate political science programs in the country. I'd also recommend youcheck out Occidental, Pomona, the University of San Diego (excellent for pre-law), and Santa Clara (ditto). If you do your research, you'll see that these "schools you've never heard of" have much to offer and are well-respected by graduate and professional schools.</p>
<p>thanks so much carolyn, big help.. by the way, where'd you get the information about thos schools' reputations (their strong and weak programs)?.. and um, since you've mentioned UC Davis' political science forte, are they more willing to accept applicants from out of state compared to Cal and UCLA? and if pol sci is their strongest program then i guess i'll be having a hard time getting into my major cuz i have lots of competition for a slot in pol sci.. right? ill also check out claremont and san diego. see, my mistake is that i solely rely on rankings to determine which schools to go to.. cuz i figured, the better ranking.. the better chances of getting into a good law school. well, seems like you think the opposite.. which i believe cuz it looks like you know universities alot better than i do.. so if you were me, you'd rather go to san diego or claremont rather than USC considering iam aiming for a political science/ history major?.. thanks</p>
<p>knix:</p>
<p>if law school is your goal, then any of the schools mentioned would be excellent. The biggest factor for law school is gpa, and then LSAT; thus, you should go to a school where you can maximize grades. Since the UC's do not have grade inflation, 'SC is a better choice. </p>
<p>btw: Pomona and Claremont McKenna are part of the Claremont consortium of colleges, and regarded as more rigorous and prestigious then 'SC. As LAC's, they just don't have a big-time football program. 'SC does have an extremely strong, local alumni network, so if you wish to settle in SoCal, it's a great place to make connections.</p>
<p>bluebayou: wow.. you sure do know alot about those universities.. i dont, im such an idiot.. thanks for the info.. um, so your personal prefernece would be- USC over the UC's but pomona/claremont over USC?</p>
<p>btw: did you know that because of my ignorance, i would even settle for a no name school to transfer to?.. well, but that was before i became oriented with different universities.. hehe</p>
<p>You should find out about all of these schools, and transfer to the one that is best for you. Pomona is a no name school compared to USC, really, as are the other top liberal arts colleges. Heck, as are most liberal arts colleges. But do they lack quality? No, they don't, they just have much fewer people that have heard of them (even those that live near them!). Graduate and professional schools have heard of them, though, and love their students. Learn as much as you can, and don't rush the decision (although you should send your applications in before they're due :)).</p>
<p>DRab: thanks, but the thing is.. i dont know what school suits me best. i'd love to go to the UC's cuz of the prestige tied with studying there but there so not forgiving for out of state applicants.. i'd love to go to USC but im guessing there ridiculously expensive, not unless i applied for scholarships and grants.. i'd love to go to pomona but id rather not cuz of some silly family pressure (my sister got accepted to northwestern, my mom's pushing me to level with her).. argh! this is so frustrating.. its a *****.</p>
<p>knix:</p>
<p>DRab is correct. You'll receive a great education at any of those schools. It's not a matter of my personal preference, it's yours.</p>
<p>What are you looking for? D-1 sports? Saturday afternoon football? Small classes vs. lecture halls. Urban vs. suburban vs. rural? Beach? (Santa Barbara)</p>
<p>Don't forget, that OOS tuition & fees at the UC's make them just as expensive as a private school, where you will likely have smaller classes, better faculty contact, better advisement, etc. btw: USC and Northwestern both have great pre-professional programs. </p>
<p>Pomona is one of the top-ranked LAC's, and grad schools know it well.</p>
<p>you know what? you have a damn clear point. someone from this thread told me about the huge possibility of the UC's to increase their tuition and fees.. and if it comes out as much as the private schools', then i guess its wiser to opt for USC over the UC's. thanks for making me realize that.. and yeah, the hell with my sis.. USC and northwestern are both good schools.. right? uh-huh..</p>
<p>sorry to steal your topic knix</p>
<p>but i'm an out of stater (NY) applying to ucs (ucla and ucb)...but as a freshman applicant</p>
<p>anyway, to carolyn:
how limited is fin.aid to oos students?
are they just stingy with grants? or with the loans too?
I'm hoping I get -something-...</p>
<p>its okay edieee, i love people.. yes, im sober. and um carolyn, which school's more forgiving when it comes to OOS applicants, UCLA or Cal?.. thanks</p>