<p>Make border control a lot stricter, then once the flow has been stemmed, allow illegal immigrants that are already here to become legal. I know illegal immigrants, and many of them came as children and had no choice in the matter [and their parents just wanted a better life for themselves and their children]. It’s not right to punish people for wanting something better.</p>
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<p>I am astonished by the extent to which you have thought out your idea.</p>
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<p>Well, in my opinion, this isn’t the best idea, as those who are still here illegally will still face a large amount of time before any policy that allows for their legalization comes into effect. Rather, I think both endeavors should be undertaken concurrently.</p>
<p>ive thought about this for a looooong time</p>
<p>ive just simplified my conclusions, occam’s razor ftw</p>
<p>Illegal immigrants should be neither residing in the United States nor allowed to enjoy the freedoms that citizens and legal immigrants do. There is no excuse for not taking the legal and honest path into our nation; we have visas and permanent residencies for a reason.</p>
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<p>Our first polemicist!</p>
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<p>And you think these illegals don’t want to get visas and apply for permanent residencies?</p>
<p>gah, i promised myself i won’t look back at this thread, but…</p>
<p>how the HELL are you going to “kick them all out”? Are you proposing that the military barges into homes of illegal immigrants and forcibly returns them to their home country? How would you even find them? What about legal children of illegal immigrants [who were born in this country]? I highly doubt you have thought about this for a “looooong time.”</p>
<p>Also, I second post #26</p>
<p>we wont be able to get all of them, but if we give a good effort we can get enough to make a difference</p>
<p>the amount that we dont kick out will do the manual labor work we currently need them for</p>
<p>and who says the children should be legal? That law should be reviewed</p>
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<p>Amendment XIV, Section 1, Clause 1:</p>
<p>“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”</p>
<p>i was using semantics</p>
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<p>Actually, I find it very interesting that in Denmark, children born in the country are not automatically legal.</p>
<p>[url=<a href="http://www.justlanded.com/english/Denmark/Denmark-Guide/Visas-Permits/Citizenship]Here’s[/url">http://www.justlanded.com/english/Denmark/Denmark-Guide/Visas-Permits/Citizenship]Here’s[/url</a>] a link where you can read more about it.</p>
<p>How many countries give automatic citizenship to all those born on its territory?</p>
<p>We have a country precisely because children of immigrants born on U.S. territory are automatically citizens. Everyone who isn’t native american is here because of immigrants [and many were here before “legal” immigration existed]. Don’t be a hypocrite.</p>
<p>but…but…they’re a threat to national security!!!</p>
<p>the past does not equal the future</p>
<p>we can change things if it is beneficial</p>
<p>If we do that, then we all should leave this country. We are all immigrants and children of immigrants. Besides the Native Americans.</p>
<p>^ actually a congressman recently proposed to change the 14th amendment. One thing that really upsets me is the illegal drug war and the murders across the US-Mexican border.</p>
<p>Yea, thats the main reason why they want to strengthen the border. The war can move up here.</p>
<p>^^^ The Native Americans too: They came from Siberia.</p>
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<p>Another good point. As things stand, America’s reproductive rate (immigrants excluded) would leave us with a flat-lining or decreasing population, something we cannot afford with all of the Social Security claims that are going to be made by the Baby Boomers in a time not too far from now.</p>
<p>^^If that were the case then no one should in inhabit N. & S. America. Europeans must move from Europe, the Asians from Asia, and everyone has to live in Africa. Never gonna happen. The Natives claimed the land first, so it’s theres.</p>