Illegal immigrants.

<p>social security isnt really going to work for much longer, the math is scary if you look at it</p>

<p>12 million people [ at the very least ] getting better jobs, and thus paying more taxes [ income, property, land, whatever ].</p>

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<p>Let’s not sound its death knell just yet, 'kay? Have a little more faith in the mechanisms of the impossible.</p>

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<p>I concur.</p>

<p>so unless there is a huge change in the system, we will have nothing when we’re older</p>

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<p>If they do, then they should apply and wait for them like all the other immigrants. Why should they get to jump the line?</p>

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<p>Who says they get to jump the line? All I said was offer them a path to legalization.</p>

<p>“the costs, delays, and inefficiencies in processing visa applications and work permits contribute to the number of immigrants who immigrate without authorization. As of 2007 there was a backlog of 1.1 million green card applications, and the typical waiting time was three years.”</p>

<p>I’d rather offer weed a path to legalization</p>

<p>hehhe</p>

<p>Bring back the immigration quota act of the 1920’s and make the border tougher than the Berlin Wall.</p>

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<p>Not gonna fly off the chopping block in Congress.</p>

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<p>Berlin is considerably smaller than the entire U.S. southern border, don’cha think?</p>

<p>^ make that East Berlin :b</p>

<p>^I understand your point but feel that “Berlin” is equally appropriate.</p>

<p>No! Only by implying that it was half of Berlin can the point be made flawlessly!!</p>

<p>A really tough border is feasible and appropriate. Punishing/deporting illegally immigrated persons is not.</p>

<p>Not if we live in a dictatorship of the majority! (John C. Calhoun would be very upset though)</p>

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<p>Does this belief take into account the cost, which - as I’m sure you already know - is prohibitively high?</p>

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<p>The fees collected from the legalization process should be more than enough to cover the cost of the said “border”.</p>

<p>^ False. The legal process costs money, and then illegal immigrants have no money to pay to cover this and the expenses to protect the border.</p>

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<p>This is not an self-regenerative source of funds; if future flow is stemmed, such proceeds will eventually decrease. Furthermore, CelaPlusAimaple’s point about the legal process stands - the people responsible for the naturalization process have to be paid, too.</p>

<p>OK, so what now? No border? Either you want to have it or you don’t…pick your poison.</p>