<p>Yes Spanks- 167 is 95th %. at least in the test administered 12/06 (I think that is when she took it)
but I think the score and % stays constant. That is how the schools can view and compare a 167 or a 170 in any test administration.<br>
I think the scale of each test is used to "equalizer" the percentage.
with that said- I think a 167 is always top 5 %
a 170 is always top 2 %
a 172 is always top 1% (or thereabouts)</p>
<p>thanks, marny. looks like I better get some LSAT books, stat.</p>
<p>That said, I like the predictability of law school admissions. The 167 alone will practically guarantee multiple T20 acceptances. A friend of mine w/ a 172 and a 3.6 GPA got into every T10 school she applied to (at least 5-6, she didn't apply to HYS due to the GPA). She's going to UChicago but I know she was choosing b/w Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, among others.</p>
<p>So, study up on that LSAT!</p>
<p>Good idea Spanks. You may want to get the Powerscore "bibles". They are supposed to be very helpful. There is no way my kid wanted to take this test a 2nd time. She's content with her score.</p>
<p>Norcal- d sees it the same way. A shot at some T14's but she should most definitely get into a few top 20 schools. </p>
<p>Law School admission is mostly based on GPA/LSAT.<br>
There seems to be little or no surprises in the admission process.</p>
<p>so....a GPA at any school? what if I go to Podunk University and get a 4.0? Why should I even bother going to ILR and Cornell if I will probably have a lower GPA?</p>
<p>Andddddd how about MBA from ILR?</p>
<p>stringa- do not underestimate the IMPORTANCE of the LSAT. </p>
<p>IMO- a 4.0 from Podunk and a 172 LSAT should get you into a T 10 Law school and certainly multiple acceptances from T-14. </p>
<p>I do not know if an MBA program is as sensitive to test results as law school so I am not even going to venture a guess on it.</p>
<p>but stringa- pick the UG school that best meets your needs. If you think you'll be happier at Podunk U, then that is where you should go!!</p>
<p>^I agree. Go to a school that you would fit in well at.</p>
<p>That said, what I meant was that the same GPA from CAS is equivalent to the same GPA from ILR, not that the same GPA from Cornell is equivalent to the same GPA from Podunk. Getting into top law/med schools is very hard. You should try to get every advantage that you get (including going to a top undergrad). The type of person who has to decide b/w a 3.6 at Cornell and 4.0 at Podunk isn't the type of person that gets into Harvard Law or Harvard Med. The person who gets into Harvard professional schools is the person that gets a 3.9-4.0 at Cornell.</p>
<p>I know at least three ILRies entered Harvard Law School in Fall '07, and that they're doing great.
Among my chums in the class of 07, one started his PhD at UPenn, another started hers at Princeton (History), one's getting a PhD at MIT's Sloan School of Management, and another is getting a masters at Stanford. Of course, a lot of people don't go to PhD programs straight from undergrad, virtually no one does MBA from undergrad, and I'm just referring to the small subset of students I know. To be honest, very few ILRies I knew were at all interested in pursuing PhDs, but those who <em>did</em> pursue them them did great.
That ILR grads don't get into good grad schools is pretty silly. I've never heard that sort of rumor, and if anything I've been told (and my anecdotal experience suggests) that it is very good to be applying for law school out of ILR, all else being equal. Perhaps it's because they're better trained, perhaps it's because GPA-maximization is more tractable in ILR. In any event, ILR evidently presents its grads with great opportunities, but you shouldn't leave it up to your undergrad school to hand you a top grad program on a silver platter!</p>
<p>Side note: SAT12340, a low SAT score will absolutely not derail your chances of getting into ILR. Though it may be different for CR and Math, I got into ILR in the first wave of RD notifications with a glorious 640 on Math and a 650 on the Math I SAT II. From what I can tell, ILR Admissions cares much more about leadership experience and demonstrated ''fit" with the School (shown through your extracurriculars/essay.)</p>
<p>how many classes (not credits) can you take outside of ILR if you are in ILR?</p>
<p>however many you want, just complete your requirements</p>
<p>well after requirements, how much is left over?</p>
<p>ILR</a> Student Services: Summary of Curriculum Requirements</p>
<p>If you do the bare minimum, you'll have at least 18 completely free elective credits (~5-6 courses). In addition, you can also use 16 credits outside of ILR toward your ILR elective requirements. You also typically take your distribution courses (eg science/tech, western intellectual tradition, and cultural perspectives) in other colleges, and there is a lot of leeway in terms of what fulfills the distribution and out of college ILR elective requirements. So that's about 40-50 elective credits you are likely to take in other colleges, with more or less flexibility. Of course you can take more free electives if you'd like, and it's not difficult to graduate with well more than 120 credits in four years, even without APs.</p>
<p>google....</p>