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<p>Ryerson is probably one of the best if not the best for anything media related. At least thats what ive heard.</p>
<p>And for the requirements for either Queen’s or Ryerson, check their website. I’m not sure about journalism, but admission to most undergraduate programs is based on an average of your top 4 or 5 grade 12 courses.</p>
<p>Carleton is actually one of the best Universities in Canada for journalism.
Will an IVY get you more connections than a Canadian school, it is questionable. My D goes to school in the US but even her professors have told that were you get your undergrad is not as important as your Graduate degree. We made sure that the college (University) she goes to is well recognized in both the US (IVIES and Canadian U’s) so that all doors were open to her after her undergrad. We have also confirmed that her degree will be recognized in Europe should she decide to go there. When I was your ages you could write your own ticket with just having a BA or BS but now unfortunately it is the Masters that counts most. Like my D said after much discussion with college and university admissions why would you start at the very top for your undergrad since most people go to another University for the Masters. If you get your BA, BS or her case BM at the top where do you go for your masters. My D decided to go where she is even though she was accepted at 2 major IVY level schools in the States and 2 major U’s in Canada.</p>
<p>^That’s not true. An Ivy network would be significantly better than a Carleton network, so an Ivy WILL allow for more connections, so its not questionable it’s a fact. Even having a school like Harvard on your resume would be enough to make you stand out from any other resume. Carleton? Not so much. </p>
<p>As well, graduates from an Ivy/Top Privates and Publics are generally much more favored than small schools only the locals have heard of for national/prestigious internships, fellowships and even graduate placements. </p>
<p>In addition, people in business usually do not get a Master’s or a PhD since as they say time is money. (MBAs are only for career rebranding and employees that lack the credentials to move up; i.e Liberal Arts students).</p>
<p>For certain majors like journalism (especially the Art majors), I think your portfolio matters a lot more than your education.</p>
<p>I also don’t understand why your daughter would say that…no offense. </p>
<p>Why would you start out small rather than starting at the very top? </p>
<p>Through common bare bone sense, by starting up at the top, it ensures that you’ll stay at the top/reach the peak when you consider that most careers progressions are linear (even exponential) growths. Thus it makes no sense to even question such academic decisions unless of course, financial limitations barred such decisions.</p>
<p>^I am sorry to say this again but EcceHomo, you offer up a lot of stuff that simply is no valid. I’m curious about where you are getting this from. The part about MBA education is utterly absurd, I do not even know where to begin to respond. On another thread you seem to suggest graduate school is funded, confusingly lumping together expensive professional programs or masters programs with funded academic PhD programs. As for ‘starting out small’ well small has nothing to do with anything…moreover, it may make a lot of financial sense to go with a ‘lesser known’ school at the outset. It’s <em>only</em> undergrad for pete’s sake. </p>
<p>I am sorry to go on here but really I wish you would stop with your ‘advice’ as it offers a lot of misinformation.</p>
<p>First off my comment about Carleton for Journalism was meant for one of the other poster who was talking journalism schools</p>
<p>I apologize if I have upset you but I am not about to argue with you as you make some valid points but don’t forget that what you do with your degree is totally up to you no matter where you got it. I I wont deny that having an IVY name on your resume (especially in the US) may be a big help being looked at but you have live up to it. You do not need IVY credentials to make it as not every successful business person or scientist or whatever has those kinds of University credentials. I can tell you that in my D’s case it was the right choice, she is getting a double degree and holding down a 3.98 GPA, has a professor with more contacts than you can shake a stick at and has already had some of the big Universities (IVY level) interested in her. </p>
<p>I am also an employer and to me it doesn’t matter as much where you come from as what you do with it from my perspective. Each needs to make there own choice but don’t think that just because you get an IVY degree that the road is all paved for you to succeed.</p>
<p>At any rate I believe you made some valid points EcceHomo and whether you agree or not so have I. </p>
<p>Good Luck and I do honestly wish you the best</p>
<p>You seem to be pretty ignorant of everything that you have written. So I’ll take the time to dissect everything that you’ve mentioned. </p>
<p>“The part about MBA education is utterly absurd, I do not even know where to begin to respond.”</p>
<p>Search through Wallstreetoasis.
Ask Alex at MBA Apply. </p>
<p>I’m by no means incorrect. Try the above sources if you’re doubting what I’m saying. </p>
<p>"On another thread you seem to suggest graduate school is funded, confusingly lumping together expensive professional programs or masters programs with funded academic PhD programs. "</p>
<p>I did no such thing. I claimed that professional schools are usually paid out of your own pocket whereas graduate degrees can be easily subsidized through employment at the university. </p>
<p>"As for ‘starting out small’ well small has nothing to do with anything…moreover, it may make a lot of financial sense to go with a ‘lesser known’ school at the outset. It’s <em>only</em> undergrad for pete’s sake. "</p>
<p>“Only” undergrad? I hope you do realize that most business majors from successful programs such as Wharton or even Ivey do not go into graduate programs. So for such demographics, the significance/prestige of the undergraduate degree is very important. Even IF a MBA is needed, business students will need to use their undergrad degrees to garner enough job experience to apply for a MBA, which highlights yet again, the importance of a undergraduate degree. Other undergrad programs such as the ones in the sciences may require an additional degree, but it’s silly to generalize and cast all undergraduate degrees as useless or irrelevant. </p>
<p>As for starting out small? Really? So networking, intellectual curiosity, dept. strength, career opportunities mean absolutely nothing to you? I guess I’ll just recommend Carleton over HYPS then…/sarcasm. </p>
<p>I’ve already listed financial limitations in the “questionable” post, so unless that post went over head, I don’t know why you need to even bring it up. </p>
<p>“I am sorry to go on here but really I wish you would stop with your ‘advice’ as it offers a lot of misinformation.”</p>
<p>What misinformation? I’ve been quite objective concerning all advice that I’ve given on this website. If you’re still toiling over the UBC vs UofT economics dept. you should stop and look at ALL of the rankings not just the one that’s listed on UBC’s website. AER, Ecta, JPE, QJE, ReStud and Tilburg Financial all list UofT before UBC. So either these conclusions are all outliers or you’re just operating on a fringe belief. </p>
<p>smh</p>
<p>"You do not need IVY credentials to make it as not every successful business person or scientist or whatever has those kinds of University credentials. I can tell you that in my D’s case it was the right choice, she is getting a double degree and holding down a 3.98 GPA, has a professor with more contacts than you can shake a stick at and has already had some of the big Universities (IVY level) interested in her. "</p>
<p>While I agree that it’s up to the individual to make the most of their degree, an Ivy league education makes it a lot easier for the individual since most firms use an institution’s admission process/selectivity as a pre-screening tool anyway. </p>
<p>For instance, most students in prestigious fellowships or won the Rhodes were from an Ivy League school or a top private (You see HYPS on there all the time, but do you see Wake Forest on there yearly? Or UNC?)</p>
<p>Or that most Ivy League Schools/Top Privates are target schools for the most prestigious financial organizations in the world.</p>
<p>I guess what I’m trying to say is that if you were offered admission into HYPS, please do not reject it for UBC or UofT even if you cannot afford to pay for it. Usually, such schools especially Harvard enough fin.aid/work-study programs that students of any backgrounds CAN go to school there because yes, there is a difference. </p>
<p>Also how do you know your daughter made the right choice if she didn’t go to the other schools? :P</p>
<p>Eccehomo, where do I start? </p>
<p>I’m not sure if you are confused, or if its your inability to articulate yourself well. Just this alone doesn’t make a lot of sense:“I guess what I’m trying to say is that if you were offered admission into HYPS, please do not reject it for UBC or UofT even if you cannot afford to pay for it. Usually, such schools especially Harvard enough fin.aid/work-study programs that students of any backgrounds CAN go to school there because yes, there is a difference.”</p>
<p>Obviously people should choose schools they can afford. They determine that based upon the financial aid they receive…they are not going to apply to a school then reject it before seeing what kind of financial support they receive. They may or may not receive said financial aid, depending upon their particular financial circumstances and the school. Even schools that claim to be need blind do you necessarily define “need” the same way as a family would define need. Moreover, financial aid varies considerably as it also includes loans: most families would NOT find it ‘affordable’ to take out substantial loans to cover HYPS, and many would advise them not to. </p>
<p>As but another example. You state: “In addition, people in business usually do not get a Master’s or a PhD since as they say time is money. (MBAs are only for career rebranding and employees that lack the credentials to move up; i.e Liberal Arts students).”</p>
<p>Simply not true at all. There are many sources indicating the ROI for getting at MBA at various universities. Some are worthwhile, some are not. But the ‘time is money’ is accounted for, and for many it makes a tremendous difference to their careers to step out, get the credentials, step back in. </p>
<p>I can’t waste my time countering your many arguments. But please just stop. I’m not going by websites. I am a business school professor, I’ve been in this industry for over two decades, I’ve chaired my professional association of business school professors for quite a few years, I’ve served on numerous AACSB review boards and I could go on and on. I’ve taught at both tippy top US schools and Canada.</p>
<p>So you’re claiming to be a “professor” but you’re nitpicking my arguments, especially ones of which I’ve already mentioned the same exact issues that you’ve said. Try countering an argument that’s actually pertinent to my original position. I’ve already claimed that unless there were financial issues you should go to the best school possible, I don’t seem what you needed to rearticulate this fact. </p>
<p>In addition, how does “and for many it makes a tremendous difference to their careers to step out, get the credentials, step back in” this differ from career rebranding and what I’ve mentioned beforehand? </p>
<p>And lastly, even if you were a business professor, it’s a fallacious position for you to use your authority to validate your premise. Multiple academic journals have ranked UofT’s Economic program to be higher, so objectively you cannot say otherwise.You’re not going by “websites”, that fine but you do seem ignorant of many issues that I’ve talked about and chose to counter arguments that were not pertinent to my original position or did not sit well with you for whatever reason. </p>
<p>Smh, once again.</p>
<p>Enough of this.</p>
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<p>Depends on program/school doesn’t it? And where you want to live? Ex. Studying at Yale in engineering is not going to give you a leg up on someone at Waterloo IFF you want to work in Canada. Or someone from Stanford/Cal Poly in U.S. </p>
<p>Sorry I just think your statements about Ivy trumping everything can really depend on the program. IFF you want to WORK IN YOUR FIELD.</p>
<p>I agree with peachaso and good perception aregularguy. I would love to really say what I am feeling but for some it would fall on deaf ears and others it would bruise their ego. Good Bye I am out of this forum</p>
<p>Hi, I’m a first year undergraduate student. I went to high school in BC, my first semester marks were pretty high but I was taking all science courses my second semester, not my strongest subjects, so when it came time to apply for universities I wasn’t sure where to apply. I played it safe and applied to York because I knew for sure that I could get in and I didn’t want to waste my money applying to places I wasn’t certain of. </p>
<p>I ended up graduating with with an 86 average. I’m pretty ****ed off that I didn’t take a risk and apply to Queens or UofT. </p>
<p>I’m stuck at York for the Year, but I’m wondering what kind of grades I would need to get in my first year to be able to transfer.</p>
<p>Does Canada have its own sports conferences which see UoT play McGill play UBC etc?</p>
<p>First off, I’m a dual citizen (US & CA) born, raised, and living in US. Should I apply as American or Canadian or do I not have a choice? (As long as I pay Canadian tuition I’m happy =D)</p>
<p>Chance me at McGill?</p>
<p>33 ACT
3.9 Weighted GPA
On AP tests, three 5’s and a 4.
Elected Secretary of top 25 in the nation speech and debate team, made it to top 32 and top 8 of the nation at major national debate tournaments.
2nd in the State on Nationwide economics challenge competition.<br>
National Honors Society.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for offering to help everybody!</p>
<p>If I’m lacking in any portion of my app tell me and I’ll try to improve it.</p>
<p>Hi, i want to get into to any one of the following universities.
1.U of T
2.Mcgill
3.Waterloo
4.UBC
5.Alberta </p>
<p>Engg aggregate-(82%)-8.2/10. previous 4 sems 9.0/10.
GRE quant :600-700
verbal :350-450
TOEFL :102 </p>
<p>Can i get admissions in any one the above universities mentioned?</p>
<p>Why is it that McGill has so much more activity than University of Toronto on College Confidential.</p>
<p>There are usually no threads at all for Toronto.</p>
<p>Aren’t they approximately equally ranked?</p>
<p>Also, I am confused about applying to University of Toronto. Evidently, you have to apply to one of their “colleges”, and there are a lot of them. How wouold one figure out which would be best for you to apply to? Evidently, each college has its own particular “character”.</p>
<p>**Why is it that McGill has so much more activity than University of Toronto on College Confidential.</p>
<p>There are usually no threads at all for Toronto.</p>
<p>Aren’t they approximately equally ranked?**</p>
<p>CC is a very American site, and for whatever reasons Americans tend to view McGill as Canada’s top/most prestigious university, and tend to ignore everyone else. (Things are a little different within Canada; many view Toronto as the leader of the pack, and the general consensus, at least among Eastern Canadians, seems to be that Toronto and McGill are on par, Canada’s own version of a Harvard vs. Yale or Oxford vs. Cambridge situation.)</p>
<p>The fact remains that Toronto smoked McGill in the Times Higher Education’s 2010-11 World University Rankings, ranking 1st in Canada and 17th in the world (McGill ranked 2nd in Canada and 35th in the world). Results were similar on the THE’s special 2011 World Reputation Rankings, ranking Toronto 1st in Canada and 17th in the world, with McGill 2nd in Canada and 29th in the world. We shall soon see the results of the THE’s 2011-12 Rankings – available October 6. As for the Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU, commonly known as the Shanghai Rankings), the latest edition (2011) has Toronto ranked 1st in Canada and 26th in the world, with McGill 3rd in Canada (behind the University of British Columbia) and 64th in the world. These ranking bodies are considered two of the three most influential international university rankings. (The other one, the QS World University Rankings, in its 2011-12 edition, places McGill 1st in Canada and 17th in the world, with Toronto 2nd in Canada and 23rd in the world.)</p>
<p>Also, I am confused about applying to University of Toronto. Evidently, you have to apply to one of their “colleges”, and there are a lot of them. How wouold one figure out which would be best for you to apply to? Evidently, each college has its own particular “character”.</p>
<p>What you need to understand is that the University of Toronto, like Oxford and Cambridge, is not a ‘monolith’ but rather primarily a federation of very old colleges which were once separate universities, each with their own distinct flavour, due to their different histories. The federated colleges, each semi-autonomous, are the University of St. Michael’s College (a Roman Catholic institution, founded by the Basilian order of priests), the University of Trinity College (an Anglican – High Anglican – institution), and Victoria University (a traditionally Methodist, now United Church of Canada institution, encompassing Victoria College for undergraduate arts and sciences, and Emmanuel College for graduate studies in theology – one of several graduate-level theological colleges, each an institution of a particular mainline Christian denomination in federation with the University of Toronto, the others being Regis College [Roman Catholic - Jesuit], St. Augustine’s Seminary [Roman Catholic - diocesan], Knox College [Presbyterian], and Wycliffe College [evangelical Anglican]). </p>
<p>The other undergraduate colleges of the University of Toronto are the constituent colleges, fully owned by the larger University, of a ‘secular’ character. University College is by far the oldest, being the founding college of the University of Toronto. The others, founded in the 1960s, are Innis College, New College, and Woodsworth College. Technically, the other main campuses of the University of Toronto – U of T Mississauga and U of T Scarborough, located 20 miles West and East of the historic campus in two Toronto suburbs – are constituent colleges as well, otherwise known as Erindale College and Scarborough College, respectively. These two colleges have achieved a considerable level of autonomy since their founding in the 1960s.</p>
<p>As for which of the seven arts and sciences undergraduate colleges on the historic campus – St. Michael’s, Trinity, Victoria, University, Innis, New, and Woodsworth – to choose, I would advise reading up on each on Wikipedia or whatever to try to discern where you might feel most at home. The particular religious – or indeed secular – tradition of a college may be a factor, as may be a college’s academic specialty. I chose St. Michael’s mainly because I was (at the time) a Roman Catholic. Many applicants list Trinity as their first choice, because of its prestigious reputation, its relatively high selectivity, etc.</p>
<p>Thea:</p>
<p>Thank you. This post is very helpful. One favor. Can you give me your own personal views regarding the secular colleges you mentioned, and why a kid would want to choose one over another.</p>
<p>University College
Innis
New College
Woodsworth</p>
<p>My son is 1/2 jewish, 1/2 christian, but basically has no religion. So secular would seem to be the way to go, but which one? </p>
<p>He is interested in political science/english/economics type subjects. He received 800 sat scores in CR and in writing. He is very studious, and not a party type. Kind of an intellectual University of Chicago type of kid. But a handsome kid.</p>