The Big Three in Canada: UT & McGill & UBC

<p>Hey guys!</p>

<p>So I am applying to the three schools in Canada: Toronto, McGill, and UBC.</p>

<p>I just wanted to know which school is "better" at business (marketing)? International relations? Education?</p>

<p>I'm pretty sure that all the campuses are beautiful...and I think Toronto and McGill are cheaper than UBC by regular international tuition (excluding scholarships etc)?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>Please do compare the three colleges!!!</p>

<p>All of these are good schools. Be aware that different faculties at each university may have different tuition/fees.</p>

<p>Western (Ontario) and Queen’s are very good for business as well.</p>

<p>“College” = community college in Canada.</p>

<p>For business look into York university located in a suburb of Toronto… Economist magazine ranks their business school #1 in Canada. In addition, if you like to pursue business with a liberal arts slant, York has a BA in business. Starting next year, York’s campus will be linked to downtown Toronto with a subway (currently under construction). </p>

<p>All the three universities mentioned have very high international reputation. Also, as the previous poster mentioned, Western Ontario & Queens are quite good too; however, they have a different college vibes. Western is in London, & Queens in Kingston; they are smaller cities, in comparison to Toronto & Montreal & Vancouver.</p>

<p>Note that the class size in the first two years at Toronto is huge; sometimes 700 - 1000 students in large lecture halls; however they are broken into smaller class size (<25 students) for recitation. I would assume the class size is large at both McGill & UBC. From a close family member who has attended both McGill (UG) & Toronto (Grad), she really had a blast at McGill. Note that it is just one person’s view. U of Toronto is situated right in downtown; in the first year, students take general requirements, and starting from 2nd year, they delve deeper into their majors. U of T has a sizable commuter population, in addition to large student population living on campus. On campus housing at U of T is like living at one of the old Ivy league schools; very historical & charming buildings. </p>

<p>UBC campus is gorgeous; however, it rains a lot. Compared to equivalent US colleges, grading, I am told, is much tougher at Toronto, UBC, followed by McGill.</p>

<p>The problem with York is that it is located right in the middle of the most infamous slum in Toronto, the Jane and Finch area. As a result there are a startlingly high number of violent and sexual assaults as well as thefts reported at and around York campus (why they decided to put a university here I will never understand), and while Schulich (York’s business school) is well regarded it is by no way the clear cut favorite in Canada, or even Ontario. In both the different national and international rankings the best 6 business schools are generally Ivey (UofWestern Ontario) Queens, Rotman (UofToronto), Schulich, Desaults (McGill) and Sauder (UBC). Different rankings will rank them differently, if you want to look at them, in addition to the economist I suggest QS global business school rankings, Macleans (ranks and compares Canadian universities), Forbes or The Financial times (Global MBA rankings).</p>

<p>If you were going to do school in Toronto I would definitely suggest UofT because it is right in the downtown (The huge Royal Ontario Museum is right beside it and the Art Gallery of Ontario is within walking distance) and it is a very safe neighborhood to live in.</p>

<p>McGill likewise is located in Downtown Montreal and is also a gorgeous and very safe campus. </p>

<p>Unlike UofT and McGill UBC has a campus that is separated from the city (Vancouver), it is not integrated with its city (like UofT or McGill), so it doesn’t quite have the same cosmopolitan feel, but it does offer a more American style campus feel ( although it is a very big campus).</p>

<p>How does McGill and U of T fare in IR?</p>

<p>From my understanding both McGill and UofT have strong IR programs. In particular I have heard good things about McGill in this area.</p>

<p>Education? If by that, you mean teacher training, I can tell you that the job market for teachers in Toronto is glutted and… I’m not sure what Canadian teaching credentials mean to Korean authorities (if you intend to return home to teach) so please exercise caution if you go down that path. In fact, exercise caution even if you want to stay in Canada to become a K-12 teacher.</p>

<p>Here is a tool that one can personalize in ranking the major universities in Canada. </p>

<p>[Maclean?s</a> ranking indicators ? - Maclean’s On Campus](<a href=“http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2012/11/02/macleans-ranking-indicators-2/]Maclean?s”>http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2012/11/02/macleans-ranking-indicators-2/)</p>

<p>[University</a> Rankings 2011 ? - Maclean’s On Campus](<a href=“http://tools.macleans.ca/ranking2013/selectindicators.aspx]University”>http://tools.macleans.ca/ranking2013/selectindicators.aspx)</p>

<p>There are a few surprises based on the results from the National Survey of Student Engagement (NSSE). This is a survey of over 577 US & Canadian Universities & colleges. In a 2012 survey, Enriching Educational Experience measures diverse & complementary learning opportunities that enhance academic programs. Examples include: study abroad, Internships / co-ops, service opportunities. The top three campuses for enriching educational experience:</p>

<p>Quest
Briercrest
Canadian University College</p>

<p>These campuses are well over the NSSE average. </p>

<p><a href=“http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/wp-content/uploads/NSSE-Enriching1.png[/url]”>http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/wp-content/uploads/NSSE-Enriching1.png&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Other best practises such as: </p>

<p>Level of academic challenge, active & collaborative learning, student faculty interaction, supportive campus environment are also ranked:</p>

<p>[How</a> well do Canadian universities follow best practices? ? - Maclean’s On Campus](<a href=“http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2013/02/07/how-well-do-canadian-universities-follow-best-practices/]How”>http://oncampus.macleans.ca/education/2013/02/07/how-well-do-canadian-universities-follow-best-practices/)</p>

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<p>Definitely surprising because none of them would even approach the description of a top-ranked Canadian university.</p>