I assume this is the point in time where us dramaMamas start to loose our shit and get crazy nervous about what school our kid will end up in. My S biggest nemesis is the darn SAT score!! Just had his heart broken by Texas state - 'made it thru Moonifieds audition- invited oncampus for call back - but because of ONLY the SAT score didn’t get accepted to Texas state so they cancelled his call back. Just awful! And what’s the worst- he has a GPA of 3.4 but has a real documented learning disability around tests/math etc. ugh! Just. Got. To. Get. To. March.
@Jrzy88 I’m so sorry! Any chance you can appeal? I’m sure there MANY more knowledgeable people on CC that would know about accommodations/exceptions your son might need. My only suggestion would be to make sure there are schools on your son’s list that are “test optional”. I know D has some on her list. We sent scores anyway because they were good, but you didn’t have to. You could do an optional essay I believe. BAL!
@Jrzy88 - given he has a learning disability, did you talk to the MT folks at Texas State and explain the situation? They may be able to have his application reconsidered. That call could have come solely from the admissions department who may have a set of stats that are their guide without looking at the rest of your application. I don’t know for sure, but it seems you have extenuating circumstances and his GPA shows he is a very capable student in the classroom. Just may be worth an ask if you haven’t already. The worst they can say is no. And if they do say no, just be confident that means it isn’t the right program for your S and that the right one will find you. Sending you good thoughts!
Arghhhh, That stinks, @Jrzy88! Could you maybe call the department and ask if he could take the SAT one more time? And while you’re on the phone-mention that he has a documented LD? Worst they can say is no. I too am losing my ****. I am trying to keep the faith that my D will get in somewhere that she’s happy-but I have a sneaking suspicion that she may be a gal who gets lots of nos (despite prescreen “success”), and won’t have clarity 'til May
I’ve been using the college insanity defense a lot lately…LOL. ;))
@Jrzy88 - totally agree with posts above. A documented learning disability should get some allowances and perhaps communication would be helpful.
For anyone else going through this process - now or in the future - whose child has a learning issue, you may want to take that into consideration when researching colleges and making up your list. Actively look for schools that not only accept, but also support students with learning issues. I am sure there are plenty of such schools out there, but I want to put in a special plug for Wright State, which prides itself in being a university that embraces ALL kinds of students, from all walks of life. One of the big surprises when my S first started attending there, was that he actually noticed this was integral to what makes this school special and it is evident everywhere he goes on campus - not just in the theater department. My S has no learning issues, but the fact that he even “felt” this open inclusion of a diverse student population - and I’ll even go so far as to say “celebration” - when it’s not typically something on his radar, really says something about the school’s mission in educating all kinds of people.
To all you parents of current seniors - unfortunately, you’ll probably be losing your **** for quite a while yet. Know that it’s normal - we fellow MT parents “get it” - and it WILL end.
This is a bummer and a heartbreak but it may not be as simple as making a call after the fact and mentioning a disability. (I guess one could try). You may need to flip your thinking around with respect to what it means to have a learning disability in college. Documented disabilities mean something different in college vs. K-12. In K-12, education is a right that must be provided and the Individual with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) requires that support be provided to achieve an education. The emphasis is on success including graduation. A college education however is not considered a right. The ADA (American Disabilities Act) governs what happens in college and the goal is to remove barriers so that those with disabilities can participate. It is however, entirely up to the student to seek out accommodations and to provide documentation to support the need. Success and graduation are not guaranteed in college and this also applies to admission.
@Jrz88, if your son was eligible for accommodations for the SAT / ACT test and he didn’t request accommodations, that’s really where you should start. It may be his best shot at getting over the minimum score threshold for schools like TSU. Things like extended time, ability to write in the book, type the essay, private room test taking, a scribe, and many others can be offered if eligible. It’s not too late for another crack at the tests with accommodations if you already have current documentation that indicates need, especially if it involves specific accommodations that he was already receiving in high school. It’s also not too late to be sure your list includes test optional schools. Hang in.
What @halflokum said^.
Texas State uses a system where they tell you what ACT score you must have for admission based on what percentile of your high school class you are in rather than being based on a calculation with your GPA like many places. So if you are in the bottom quarter of your class - you have to have a 29 ACT, where if you are in the top 25% of your class your ACT score can be as low as 22, and if you are in the top 10% of your class there is no minimum score for your ACT. I’m not sure what I think about that except it seems that they are trying to put more weight on your actual classroom performance and grades versus test scores.
Here is the chart with all of their guidelines:
http://www.admissions.txstate.edu/future/freshman/admissions-requirements.html
@Jrzy88, I second everything @halflokum said. If your S has a documented LD, and you haven’t applied for accomodations through the college board, you should try to do that now, if it’s not too late. My D has an LD, and she got time and a half on both her SATs and her ACTs, and it made a world of different in her scores (I can tell based on her PSAT, which she took without accomodations). Also, rest assured that there are plenty of MT schools out there for students with either average test scores or average GPAs. Just make sure your list includes some of those schools, and you’ll be fine. For example, my D didn’t even bother with schools like Michigan, NYU or Penn State because she knew her grades weren’t going to get her in there. With plenty of other schools that better fit her statistics, it just wasn’t worth wasting our time and money on those schools.
Seconding @CTDramaMom and @halflokum, and adding from my experience as the parent of a D with a 504 plan: the ACT folks are somewhat more flexible (and quick!) in granting accommodations.
^^^The real time factor is assembling the documentation. If one has it and it is current, getting it processed can be “quick” which is what I meant by suggesting it may not be too late. (It’s close to too late for this year but “maybe” not entirely too late.) But of course if one has already applied to a school and been rejected by admissions, it may be too late to unwind the decision for that school.
At some point in the application process, you ride the horse you have chosen to ride. Along the way you may have to adjust and triage. (Suggested reading is @KaMaMom’s epic adventures from last? year. One of the best examples ever of doing it brilliantly and with humor.) I’d suggest for the OP that maybe at this stage of the game, it’s better to focus on what is still out there as possible vs. what isn’t. One needs to be careful about being stuck in the weeds of trying to unwind a challenge - in this case passing a TSU pre-screen but not getting admitted academically to the college. One could spend a ton of time trying to unwind the academic admission and still not pass the ultimate artistic threshold as that hurdle would still loom large. I’d suggest moving on, “making a list and checking it twice” (see what I did there?) and keep going. And last year’s warriors wrote many a funny story involving wine and donuts to handle the insanity. There is that too.
What would people say is a “safe” ACT score for most MT colleges? I have seen Em’s dad’s list of which ones are more academically choosy, so not the ones in the highest category like Northwestern, Penn State or NYU, but for others? The second and third grouping?
Not to be a downer, but it takes something like 8 weeks for the documentation for the LD to be submitted and approved by CB or ACT (went through this with one of my kids). So if the OP’s kid didn’t have extended time and wants it now, the earliest the OP’s kid could take the test would be March. That is too late for Texas State.
Also, a kid with a LD cannot expect a different “line in the sand” if a school has such a line for SAT/ACT scores. The line is the line. The adjustment is supposed to be at the test level, not at admissions. The school has a responsibility to give accommodations as per their documented disability through formal channels, but that doesn’t include randomly shifting grade and test score requirements.For instance, let’s say the school’s requirement for a scholarship is a 2.5 GPA. Having a LD doesn’t’ exempt you from that requirement. Where your adjustment is is in the classroom through extended time etc. The grade is the grade.
Sorry about Texas State in this case - it stinks - but I totally agree there are many wonderful options out there, including test optional schools. Keep on going, you can do this!
@Jrzy88 can you PM me?