<p>I'm looking for some matches and safeties (that are financially sound decisions).</p>
<p>My stats are:
2130 SAT (690 Reading, 800 Math, 640 writing)
780 Math SAT2, 640 Physics (both are being retaken)
95.1 GPA
ECs are fairly strong- Boy scouts 11 years, Jazz band, Section leader, Theater for 4 years, Directing a play this december, Student council, Student Rep on our school board. Best ECs in our school.
Most difficult classes our school offers.
Glowing recs
A fairly good essay (being reworked)
Vermont</p>
<p>I'm interested in Engineering.</p>
<p>I'm looking for schools in Philly, NYC, and Chicago. I love the urban environments and what they lend themselves to. Wouldn't mind private or public, but money is an issue. I would qualify for an amazing amount of need based aid, but don't feel like sharing earnings.</p>
<p>Currently applying to:
Columbia
NYU Poly
Northwestern
Cooper Union (not expecting to get in at all)
UVM (have a full ride scholarship)
Penn State-U Park</p>
<p>If your applying to Penn State then apply to Purdue. Both schools are not great with financial aid to OOS students. Purdue has a better Engineering program then Penn State I believe.</p>
<p>Nice ECs! UVM sounds promising…congrats on the full scholarship! Fyi, NYU-Poly is your safety school both financially and academically. Trust me. lol. It won’t look at your writing score in which case, you’re pretty much set for the Honors program.</p>
<p>Based on location: U Chicago (reach) or Villanova? UIUC?</p>
<p>You definitely need more matches though. It’s hard to find engineering schools that give good financial aid to OOS students - I’ve been in your shoes before. Perhaps…NJIT? GT offers some scholarships, but I wouldn’t count on getting them just for the sake of applying. Hmm. Maybe you could add a match that’s sort of like a wild college choice - kind of how CC had that thread up a few weeks/months ago about how high school seniors should add at least one “oddball” school to the list of schools they’re applying to. Maybe for you, a college with a smaller population that will cater to the individual more, you know? :S just throwing that out there.</p>
<p>good luck!</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins, Cornell, Penn, U Maryland College Park (DC)</p>
<p>
UChicago does not have an engineering program.</p>
<p>“If your applying to Penn State then apply to Purdue. Both schools are not great with financial aid to OOS students. Purdue has a better Engineering program then Penn State I believe.”</p>
<p>Purdue, though it has a great program, is a little too far out for me.</p>
<p>"Nice ECs! UVM sounds promising…congrats on the full scholarship! Fyi, NYU-Poly is your safety school both financially and academically. Trust me. lol. It won’t look at your writing score in which case, you’re pretty much set for the Honors program.</p>
<p>Based on location: U Chicago (reach) or Villanova? UIUC?</p>
<p>You definitely need more matches though. It’s hard to find engineering schools that give good financial aid to OOS students - I’ve been in your shoes before. Perhaps…NJIT? GT offers some scholarships, but I wouldn’t count on getting them just for the sake of applying. Hmm. Maybe you could add a match that’s sort of like a wild college choice - kind of how CC had that thread up a few weeks/months ago about how high school seniors should add at least one “oddball” school to the list of schools they’re applying to. Maybe for you, a college with a smaller population that will cater to the individual more, you know? :S just throwing that out there.</p>
<p>good luck!"</p>
<p>Is there a separate application for the Honors program? I really like the look of Villanova and I’ll certainly look at it more. UChicago doesn’t have an engineering program. If it did, I would apply instantly. I agree that FinAid is difficult to find. Do you have any ideas for oddball schools?</p>
<p>“Johns Hopkins, Cornell, Penn, U Maryland College Park (DC)”</p>
<p>Cornell and Penn are safeties/matches? I don’t exactly think so…
JHU and UMaryland are around the DC area. If I decide I want to be there (which right now I’m thinking I don’t) they would certainly be considered.</p>
<p>Thanks for the replies so far! Which of the schools on my current list would you consider match?</p>
<br>
<br>
<p>OK…money is an issue. If you’re family is low income, then 100% need/no loan schools are best.</p>
<p>However, if your family has a highish income, but can’t afford it’s EFC, then you need to select schools with lots of merit. </p>
<p>In either case, Penn St would be a bad choice for you, because they can’t meet need (especially for OOS), but they also don’t have strong merit for OOS either.</p>
<p>So, which is your situation?</p>
<p>I’m not sure. I think you may need to fill out the Dean’s Ap (which was sent out via the postal service). But I’ll try and find out for you for sure. Yeah, I agree that Villanova looks gorgeous. I’d totally go if they gave me more financial aid. I was hoping I’d win one of their full-ride scholarships. Although honestly, I was also turned off because they got my gender wrong in my decision letter. 
it sucked lol</p>
<p>">>><
Wouldn’t mind private or public, but money is an issue.
<<<<</p>
<p>OK…money is an issue. If you’re family is low income, then 100% need/no loan schools are best.</p>
<p>However, if your family has a highish income, but can’t afford it’s EFC, then you need to select schools with lots of merit.</p>
<p>In either case, Penn St would be a bad choice for you, because they can’t meet need (especially for OOS), but they also don’t have strong merit for OOS either.</p>
<p>So, which is your situation? "</p>
<p>Very low income bracket, so I would need no loan/100% need schools.</p>
<p>“I’m not sure. I think you may need to fill out the Dean’s Ap (which was sent out via the postal service). But I’ll try and find out for you for sure. Yeah, I agree that Villanova looks gorgeous. I’d totally go if they gave me more financial aid. I was hoping I’d win one of their full-ride scholarships. Although honestly, I was also turned off because they got my gender wrong in my decision letter. it sucked lol”</p>
<p>Thanks. I hope I don’t get mixed up like that!</p>
<p>Sixth- when you’re quoting the way you are, it’s tricky to read your posts! Give this a try: </p>
<p>[ quote ] the text you are quoting [ /quote ]</p>
<p>Take out the spaces between the brackets and the word “quote”. It will look like this: </p>
<p>
</p>
<p>Easier to read!</p>
<p>Ever thought about U Rochester? They have good engineering and meet 100% of need.</p>
<p>
URochester looks too far from things… I feel like I would find myself quickly bored.</p>
<p>Not sure what “things” you mean, but the city of Rochester’s engineering employment base and history is powerful (Kodak, Xerox, etc.). No question that the city, like much of the industrial NE/MW is in trouble and trying to redefine itself, but there are lots of smart folks there and they’re probably not as removed from things as you might imagine (and certainly no worse than what you’d get at Penn State).</p>
<p>Not the people. I simply find myself constantly needing to do new things, meet different people, try a new activity. I can’t stand being in places that might limit that, especially having spent the majority of my life in one. Routines just bother me.</p>
<p>Vandy meets 100% of need without loans. Great engineering. Good weather. NASHVILLE!!!</p>
<p>I don’t know. I’d still say give U Rochester a look. You might like, you might hate it, but based on what you’ve disclosed so far, I think it belongs on your “possible” list. Rochester can be a surprising city and has a lot of historic wealth that has left a stronger than you might expect cultural vibrancy.</p>
<p>After giving URochester a look, it is now on my possibles. I got in at UVM, so my safety/financial safety is set. Are there any more schools that could be suggested?</p>
<p>You’ve got the NYC schools, though neither is a match or safety. The Philly schools would be Penn, Swarthmore, Villanova, Drexel, and Temple - only the last three being matches or safeties. Chicago has Northwestern, IIT, and UIC. All have positive attributes and might appeal to you more than UVM.</p>
<p>Since you already have the full ride in pocket, apply to the schools you’d attend over UVM if finances weren’t an issue, then compare their offers and decide whether the higher cost is worth it to you. Your stats might get you merit aid at some of them - IIT, for instance, likes to give its Camras scholarships to students with ECs similar to yours.</p>
<p>You might also look into Boston schools. Though not as generous as before, Franklin Olin has good FA and is a great engineering school, while Northeastern (like Drexel) has wonderful coop programs, which can help students pay the COA.</p>