<p>Is there really only one BILD 1 class? Currently there are 59 people on the waitlist. And I can't even be ON the waitlist because I'm on the waitlist for the chem 6a class that you need to take with BILD 1.</p>
<p>And yes, I am a bio major.
And somehow I’m able to add BICD 100 (Genetics) to my schedule even though the prereq for that is BILD 1. wadfq?</p>
<p>Well it looks to me that chem6a is a pre-req for BILD 1, and chem6b is the one that is allowed to be taken concurrently. Also, since the course size is already 400, I don’t think they are planning to add another class. At most they are going to added more discussion sections. Even then…</p>
<p>And according to this website:[What</a> to Do Before Enrolling in Classes (Undergraduates)](<a href=“http://students.ucsd.edu/academics/enroll/undergraduate-enrollment/before-enrolling-in-classes.html]What”>What to Do Before Enrolling in Classes (Undergraduates))
if you don’t have the prereq for it, you’d be dropped automatically. However, I remember when I tried to register for a class I don’t have the prereq for it just blocked me from adding the course. Do you have no AP bio credit?</p>
<p>Since you don’t have the pre-req (CHEM 6A is required, and you aren’t taking CHEM 6B concurrently) for BILD 1, why don’t you try enrolling in BILD 3, which has no pre-reqs? You’d still have to waitlist, but if you do the section with 400 students, you may be able to get into the class, even with a long waitlist.</p>
<p>Usually you aren’t able to enroll in a class if you don’t have the pre-req for it. They may drop you from BICD 100 later. Is it possible that you already have credit for BILD 1 through AP Bio or transfer credit?</p>
<p>Have you tried asking your adviser what you should do?</p>
<p>Ehh. Two things. I do have AP Bio credit, and according to the AP credit chart, I’m exempt from BILD 1, 2, 3. Yayyy awesome possum right?
Well, the school I’m hoping to (be able to) transfer to next year requires a full year of Intro Bio with labs.</p>
<p>Setting aside the fact that I need to fill these requirements, what bio class would the average first year UCSD student take if she’s exempt from BILD 1,2,3? I don’t even want to think about how I’m supposed to deal with the “with labs” part. sigh…</p>
<p>As a disclaimer -because I feel like I’ll need one to not get attacked by the CC police- I received a “guaranteed transfer” as people call it; I’m not a bitter Ivy reject biding her time until she can transfer to a “better” school. I love SD, it’s a great school for what I’m planning to major in, but I simply want to keep my options open for next year.</p>
<p>I have an advisor? I do really want to talk to someone. I was planning on calling
[USIS</a> Advising Services](<a href=“http://biology.ucsd.edu/education/undergrad/advising/index.html]USIS”>Advising Services)
these people come Monday. I have a personal advisor? Where can I go to find out who s/he is?</p>
<p>I emailed UCSD admins for something once… Took them 3 weeks to respond. I shall call.</p>
<p>Well, that explains why you were able to enroll in BICD 100. You already have credit for BILD 1, 2, and 3, so the system automatically lets you enroll. You can still take BILD 1, 2, and 3 if you need or want to, but keep in mind that you won’t receive credit for them (which may be important if you need a certain number of units to transfer or if you need to remain a full time student).</p>
<p>If you’re exempt from BILD 1, 2, and 3, the next typical biology course would probably be BICD 100 (Genetics). The other upper-div bio classes that students usually take tend to have pre-reqs like o-chem, biochem, or genetics. But you can take any course that you meet the requirements for.</p>
<p>There aren’t any lower-div bio labs at UCSD (that I know of). You will probably have to take an upper-div bio lab. A common one is biochemical techniques (BIBC 103) because it’s a requirement for many of the bio majors, but you could just as easily take another bio lab. I took recombinant DNA techniques (BIMM 101), which I really enjoyed. You’ll have to check what the pre-reqs for those are, though.</p>
<p>You could check with the school you’re transferring to to see if you can take upper-div bio classes in lieu of repeating general biology, but I don’t know if they’ll let those credits transfer. If you still want to (or need to) repeat general bio, why don’t you enroll in BILD 2, which has open spots in both sections? You already have credit for BILD 1, so you should be able to enroll without any issues. That may be easier for you in future quarters, as well, since you will be “off track,” so to speak, so the classes in the BILD sequence you want to take may not be as impacted.</p>
<p>Try using the VAC, which you should be able to access through tritonlink. You can select where you want the message to go (to your college adviser, to your department adviser, etc), and they usually get back to your within a couple of business days. It also keeps a record of your questions, so you can always refer back to them if you need to. It may take a little longer to get a reply, since Monday’s a holiday, but I’ve never had to wait longer than a couple of days to get a response.</p>
<p>Edit: Also, if you want to talk to someone once school starts, the departments and colleges generally have walk in hours and appointments to meet with advisers. That’s another option, if you have questions throughout the year or quarter, but I’ve found with quick questions that the VAC is the most convenient. There aren’t assigned advisers (though you can request an appointment with a particular adviser, if you have a preference), but every college and department has a handful of advisers who help students during designated walk in hours or during their appointment times.</p>
<p>Ah thank you so much.
Looks like I’ll have to contact both schools then.</p>
<p>One more thing though. I took BIO93 at UCI during highschool. Could I get in trouble for duplication of credit? 93 was very basic bio concepts, so I should be okay for BILD 2 and up right?</p>
<p>Oh I tried VAC. And it says I can’t use it 'cause I’m not a current student, enrolled, and some other things…</p>
<p>Scratch that, I found e-advising for first year students.</p>
<p>Oh, yeah! I forgot there was something else for new students. Haha, sorry about that–glad you found it!</p>
<p>I don’t think it’ll be an issue. Did you receive any credit for BIO 93? It should show up on your academic history, where it shows what credit you received for AP credit and such. I don’t know what it would be the equivalent of, but even if you did try to get credit for it, it probably would only count for BILD 1, 2, and/or 3, in which case they wouldn’t approve it because you already have credit for it. You can still retake BILD 1, 2, or 3 but you won’t receive credit for it (but I do believe it’ll show up on your transcript).</p>
<p>So, yes, I think you’re fine. They won’t let you duplicate credit for the same course, and if it happens accidentally, all that would change is that you lose some units for something, which won’t make any difference.</p>
<p>I just found out from an email that I HAVE to take 3 quarters of bio labs with the BILD sequence in lieu of “two semesters of intro bio with labs”.
It looks like there are only two labs that I can take that are offered in the Fall Quarter: BIMM 101 and BIBC 103 just like you (baktrax) said.
Well, I’m #3 on the waitlist for BIBC 103… Do you think I will be able to enroll in this class? BIMM 101 has at least 9 people on the waitlist, so I thought I would have a better chance with BIBC.</p>
<p>If it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to enroll in BIBC 103, I have no clue what else I can do.
(I thought of emailing the prof for BIBC, but I that would be very rude and upstart of me yeah?)
Suggestions?</p>
<p>Oh, I also noticed that an extra MMW class opened up and was able to get off the waitlist for MMW. Could that possibly happen with BIBC as well?</p>
<p>You might be able to get into the lab (you should still show up to the first lab section, just in case someone else doesn’t), but it’s hard to say, since usually the students who take the labs are third and fourth years who need it to graduate.</p>
<p>I don’t know if you’re going to be able to get three bio labs during your first year, since they fill up fast (the third and fourth years typically have earlier enrollment times, and they need the classes to graduate). If you can’t get in this quarter, you can double up on labs another quarter, if you can get into them. I’ve taken two labs in a quarter and it’s annoying but it’s doable. You might also want to consider taking the pre-reqs to labs that are offered in subsequent quarters so that you have more choices of labs you can take.</p>
<p>Did you try contact the school you’re transferring to about your situation? These really aren’t “intro labs,” like other schools typically have along with their intro bio courses. They’re not really intended for first year students, which is why this seems so difficult to deal with waitlists and pre-reqs.</p>
<p>Also, you can contact the professor if you want, but there’s nothing they can do about it. They have nothing to do with how many sections are open or who gets off the waitlist.</p>
<p>@FindmeFazo
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<p>I’m not quite sure what they’re talking about here. Do you think you can copy and paste exactly what the email said? Unless things have changed (and they very might well have), you only have to take two lab classes. And BIMM 101 and BICD 103 are very difficult to get into. Most people can’t get into them until their 3rd or 4th year. You certainly do not have to take those labs now.</p>
<p>^I think their talking about the requirements for the school that they want to transfer to.</p>
<p>baktrax,</p>
<p>YES I have tried contacting the school. They respond quickly but it’s like they just skim through my email. I explained my entire situation in the first email and the response was basically “you need to take 3 quarters of intro bio.” Not very helpful… I sent them a second email asking how many quarters of labs I need to take since the BILD classes don’t include any labs, and they said three. Very frustrating, but I can’t send them an email starting “Can you please actually read my email and think carefully?”
Should I send the school another email telling them what you said- that the labs aren’t really intro labs? I don’t want to sound like a lazy butt though…</p>
<p>What class do you think will open up the greatest number of labs for me for second quarter?</p>
<p>Oh also, you were right on the dot for what you said before. My SD advisor says I can take BILD again, and it will show up on my transcript but I won’t get any credit (or GPA credit) for it.
I actually explained this in an email to the school I’m transferring to, but they didn’t say they were or weren’t okay with it. I guess they didn’t read that part of my email. humm…</p>
<p>I don’t see why they wouldn’t be okay with you retaking BILD, since you still have taken the class and they can see your grade in it. Whether you receive credit for it, seems irrelevant since you already HAVE credit for it. It’s not your fault that UCSD won’t let you retake it.</p>
<p>BIBC 103 usually has the most sections, I think, but that’s because many students are required to take it. BIMM 101 tends to be pretty popular as well, so it tends to have more sections. I don’t know what other labs you would be eligible to take because it depends on which pre-reqs you have fulfilled. I don’t know what pre-reqs the labs have off the top of my head.</p>
<p>Is there a number you can call? Explaining your situation to someone in person might help, but it could be because they are not familiar with how the UCSD labs work. Their students may have labs that go along with their intro classes, which is why they keep saying that their required. I have a feeling you’re going to get the same response, but it’s worth a try to actually talk to someone and explain your situation.</p>
<p>I AM enrolled in BILD 2 (BILD 1 was full), so they are letting me take it, so I will. It’s a bummer that I’m having to relearn stuff I did in high school, but I think the other school’s pretty firm on their intro bio requirement.</p>
<p>I’ve been looking through the course offerings for bio sci for the past two days, and there really isn’t much other than the ones you’ve already told me. The ones that I have the prerequisites to take right away are
BIMM 101, BIBC 103, BICD 131, BIEB 123, and BIEB 135. The last two are ecology stuff and BICD 131, BIEB 123 and BIEB 135 aren’t offered in the fall it seems? WebReg is like “dafq?” when I type in the course codes. Also, I noticed that if I take
Not sure if BIMM 116 (Circadian Rhythms) and BIMM 149 (Computation for biologists) count as labs.</p>
<p>Oh right, and like I said before BIMM 101 and BIBC 103 are full. I’m 3rd on the waitlist for 103, and the shortest waitlist for 101 is 9 people I believe.</p>
<p>I also noticed that if I took BIEB 100 (Biostatistics), I will be able to take like 6 labs (all ecology but better than nothing right?). But webreg doesn’t list BIEB 100 as a course… I guess technically if I’m able to take BIEB 100 next quarter, then I can triple up on ecology labs in the spring… But you know… I probably won’t.</p>
<p>I’m not confident in chemistry, so I’ll probably have to start with 6a. Most of the prereqs for the bio labs are Chem 140 anyway, a long way off from 6a. </p>
<p>How difficult is Chem 6C anyway? I took SAT II chem junior year and got a 780. I also took the AP exam… but sad story: I got a three 'cause I ran out of time and couldn’t bubble in the lower half of my MC answer sheet. I knew this would come back to haunt me some day. Even if I did get a five, I would feel uneasy 'cause it’s been a long time since junior year ya know?</p>