<p>You will be charged $3 per post (120 ... 121 ...), plus $10 extra because there was already a thread on the same topic.</p>
<p>what does 13373d mean?</p>
<p>lol 1337 is leet speak =P</p>
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<p>sorry</p>
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<p>lol cant believe this thread hasnt been closed yet. great fun though</p>
<p>I respect Mea immensely now.</p>
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<p>Mea, just wanted to stop in and say that I'm in love with your skills of argumentation. You should do debate at Princeton! And everything else I'll pretty much chalk up to aram's 4th point ;)</p>
<p>ahhyyy! I really hope Prefontaine isnt my roommate! And if you are, PLEASE DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT PRINCETON WHEN WE'RE THERE.</p>
<p>well going back to the topic (sorta)..i had a ?</p>
<p>what does bickering entail exactly? do nondrinkers bicker too?</p>
<p>Mea, I also loved your posts. As someone else who chose Princeton primarily because of its intellectual intensity, I find the idea that an optional and varied dining system automatically precludes the school from being an academic haven offensive. Students at every school drink, but that doesn't mean that they aren't passionate about learning and committed to values beyond prestige.</p>
<p>Oh, and Prefontaine, I wrote my main Princeton essay on my love of Dickens novels, so you will have to search for another example to prove your hypothesis of Princeton as an intellectual wasteland.</p>
<p>I haven't much clue what bickering entails, though I heard from some entirely unreliable source somewhere that in a certain club being passed down the stairs naked was involved at some stage. Does anyone have better information?</p>
<p>Re: the intellectual thing - I've had bewildering dinners sitting between two people discussing the finer points (no idea how fine) of Kant, which they did from the start of dinner (5:30) to when they got kicked out (sometime after 8). Nor is that uncommon. You would have a long way to go (even in trying to be pretentious) if you think Dickens is the be all and end all of intellectualism. Try a mouthful of phenomenology, or Pound's Cantos, or crystal field theory as applied to Hegel.</p>
<p>(Okay, okay, I made that last one up. :))</p>
<p>philntex and ICarl - thanks : )! Made my day. Debate sounds terrifying tho.</p>
<p>prefont - thanks for that too. </p>
<p>srs - I think it's always different. Some alums told me that some were very mild. Participate in a card game or something. Or like, a costume contest or dress up thing? Whereas others were rather crazier like what arma just said. I'm sure non-drinkers bicker - why wouldn't they?</p>
<p><em>robotic gaze comes into eyes and alcoholedu information is regurgitated</em> There are fewer drinkers than you think. It's just that the minority get all the attention. According to statistics...</p>
<p>(for the record, f.scottie took the brunt of the arguments really well at the start of this monster thread)</p>
<p>According to the Frosh Issue of the Princetonian:</p>
<p>"Bicker is similar to a fraternity rush process, though the actual activities - which range from eating questionable concoctions to formal interviews - differ from club to club."</p>
<p>I've heard that Tiger has the more strange bickering processes while clubs like Cap and Ivy have more formal, normal ones, although I'm not entirely sure about that.</p>
<p>Bleh, I've never liked Dickens. Too dry for me (and I sometimes found his characters too cliched - Nicholas Nickleby, I'm looking at you.) Yes, I'm going to be an English major. Go ahead, stone me now. I prefer Austen and Wilde anyways.</p>
<p>Tiger Inn (being the club that houses most of the football members) like to do what most football players do, wild random things that make people go WHOOO!!!. Many years they have asked students to swallow a goldfish. Ivy usually has an interview where they ask you a series of questions dealing with proper etiquette/other random "high class" things, if you would like to call it that. I know a question that usually is asked every year is, "What is the first thing you do at a restaurant dinner table?" The correct answer is put the napkin on ur lap. lol. </p>
<p>Bickering is each eating club's form of "rushing" however much less intense. It is essentially a students attempt to "get accepted" by the eating club. However, keep in mind that 5 of the current 11 are bicker and only 30% of students (in the class) actually choose to bicker, and a smaller amount, around 20-25% are actually eventually part of a bicker club. Each eating club is known to attract a certain "type" of student, such as TI usually football players, Quad - asians, etc.</p>
<p>Wilde... I liked The Picture of Dorian Gray but I can't remember reading much else. Austen ..... I read a LOT of Austen. Nice reads but they were all so similar. Then again, maybe they were too deep for me or something ;). Um, I liked Bront</p>
<p>Haha I could never hurt a goldfish. It's extremely likely I'm going non-bicker.</p>
<p>yes, the bicker process varies by club, from a series of individual interviews at ivy to group activities with groups of members next door at cottage. one key thing to note is that at all the bicker clubs, the process is "dry" per ICC (interclub council) rules. the club initiations that follow bicker and sign-in, however, are another story altogether (of course, non-drinkers are perfectly free to abstain).</p>
<p>I'm probably going to sign-in, too, probably because I can't tell my soup spoon from my butter knife and I have no desire to to eat live goldfish. Plus, I already have some idea of which club I want to join (although that can - and probably will - change in the next two years).</p>
<p>Mea, I believe Wilde was more famous for his plays (The Importance of Being Earnest) and his short stories, which I enjoy more than Dorian. I'm more into the narrative style of a book than the actual story, I guess (hence my undying love for Austen). Jane Eyre...I actually neither loved nor hated. Weird. Better than Wuthering Heights, I suppose.</p>
<p>EDIT because I suck at typing.</p>