<p>Is this the one with the "meet your meat"? This is BS. It's PETA propaganda, and it's a waste of everyone's time. Not getting into the issues, all I have to say is that this is one place out of thousands, and most are nothing like this.</p>
<p>Regardless, the pure concept of killing these animals is a bit unsettling.</p>
<p>What's up with cutting the eyeballs out of the cows? Beating animals to the ground and leaving them to suffer in pain? Cutting the hens' beaks off? Throwing chickens against the box? :mad:</p>
<p>That video was the catalyst for my vegetarianism. Two years later, I still think I made the right decision. Even if most facilities aren't like this (and I'm not sure that is the case), I couldn't eat meat knowing that I could possibly be supporting somewhere that is like this.</p>
<p>Even if it were the most humane killing possible, killing is still killing.</p>
<p>You are idiots. Eating meat is an essential part of living and is critical to evolution. If somebody before you didn't eat meat, you probably wouldn't be here. It's part of the food chain and the world would me messed up if we didn't eat meat.</p>
<p>Essential? No. Peanuts, tofu, soy, fish and dairy (if you so choose...which I don't besides a little bit of ice cream from time to time) There are other sources of protein and nutrition. Meat is not critical to evolution. If someone before me didn't eat meat, I would have less chance of developing heart disease. There are alternatives and meat is just brutal. You just don't have enough willpower to make any sort of sacrifice for anything that is not human.</p>
<p>Edit: You made another typo. I'm the idiot? Typo once and fix it, you're human. Twice, you're being careless.</p>
<p>Agree with logisticswizard.</p>
<p>Southernbarn, I *understand<a href="yet%20still%20don't%20agree">/i</a> why eating meat is essential. But it doesn't mean that factory farmers should torture animals by hurting them severely and leaving them to suffer painfully before their slow death.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I can't get rid of my carnivorous tastes...</p>
<p>I love grilled steak. Yum....</p>
<p>Humans are omnivores for a reason. Also, hairypotty, do you really think farmers are terrible, cruel people who senselessly beat animals? This is not the norm, not at all.</p>
<p>I'd like to take this time to link everyone to Maddox, who has excellent articles regarding this:</p>
<p>This one is about how vegetarianism is no better than anything else: <a href="http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill%5B/url%5D">http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill</a></p>
<p>And here's a classic Maddox suggestion for all of us meat eaters:
<a href="http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor%5B/url%5D">http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor</a></p>
<p>I'm an everything but dairy-tarian I don't know how people are able to drink milk, everytime I see a glass a picture of this cow udder pops into my mind and it freaks me out. I always ask people who drink it often (I know a guy who goes through a gallon every two days) if they would suck it off the udder.
Meat's awesome though.
I'm being serious btw.</p>
<p>Haha... I love milk.</p>
<p>Regardless, I hope none of you are PETA supporters (though I know some of you are). PETA is a radical organization that would kill every human being on earth to save one animal. They want total separation of man and animal.<br>
One of their ad campaigns involved showing pictures of Holocaust victims... then saying that it happens everyday. To animals. PETA compared Holocaust victims to livestock, which is just disgusting.
Go ahead and do some searching on the internet. In some towns, PETA sponsored animal shelters euthanize stray animals. In some cases, the "strays" were owned by local citizens.</p>
<p>PETA is one of the worst organizations in history, and nobody should be part of it. They are also very stupid. They asked Dick Cheney to stop fishing because of the pain it causes the fish.</p>
<p>And don't get me wrong, I'm big on saving the environment, on preventing animal extinction, and stopping unneeded animal cruelty. I read National Geographic and subscribed to ZooBooks as a kid (anybody else?). But PETA is not the way to go.
In the meantime, I'm going to go have a hotdog.</p>
<p>In response to that Wheat article....</p>
<p>most of the vegetables I eat, I get from the garden at my house. i'm sure thats not killing animals. i think the number of animals killed through is nothing compared to straightup killing them. you eat meat and wheat, so that means your charged with double homocide (1 felony and 1 misdemeanor) as compared to my maybe 1 misdemeanor. </p>
<p>i never saw the holocaust ad, but that i don't agree with that.</p>
<p>the sponsor a vegetarian thing posted is the most ridiculous thing i've ever seen. go ahead and eat three times the meat. it will shorten your life and you will not be around to eat meat as long as you could be, which balances things out. i honestly doubt anyone would really stick to something so childish.</p>
<p>however, i do feel fishing hurts the fish and it is not necessary.</p>