I'm way too self confident =)

Colleges and Universities A-Z Cornell University
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<p>Okay - I'm going to break this good rule just to apologize to the OP.</p>

<p>I hadn't read through the whole thread when I posted my comments and now I feel guilty for looking like I was piling on. I didn't mean to - I was just trying to provide some feedback for you. Clearly, you'd already gotten too much.</p>

<p>You seem like an intelligent, independent person who's got a great deal of potential to shatter some interesting boundaries and you're doing exactly what you should be doing at your age.</p>

<p>Best of luck to you.</p>

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<p>This thread is funny. So many people are being mean to the OP becayse of his confidence. I think he has a decent shot if he did publish a book. His GPA is somewhat low but decent considering the difficulty of the course load and his ECs. SAT's are not terrible and are around Cornell averages.</p>

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<p>“Anyone who does will be considered an idiot through the eyes of the college confidential community.........”</p>

<p>Are you a CC admin or something? No, your not. Like many of us, you’re another arrogant high schooler, so, no, I’m not going to shut up. </p>

<p>“I published a book. It was not self published; i paid nothing at all for it to happen. I was in middle school. Did I ever say it was a prize winning work of fiction? No. Did I even say it was even particularly good, when it was published by a 13 year old kid? No. It was published by a genuine publisher and is available online and that is all I ever said.”</p>

<p>Based on the new information here, the published book will not carry nearly as much weight as many people had assumed. Why didn’t you say this before? </p>

<p>“I see no reason to give you the name judging from what's gone on after simply posting two essays.”</p>

<p>Oh, the guy who takes risks is scared of us criticizing his imaginary book. </p>

<p>“and I guess it says alot about the people who posted in it.”</p>

<p>What does it say about you?
“alot” is two words. </p>

<p>“Well, it's definitely entertaining to make fun of a pompous high school prick.”</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

<p>“Clearly, you'd already gotten too much.” </p>

<p>(cry)</p>

<p>"You seem like an intelligent, independent person who's got a great deal of potential to shatter some interesting boundaries and you're doing exactly what you should be doing at your age." </p>

<p>No.</p>

<p>“So many people are being mean to the OP becayse of his confidence.” </p>

<p>That's part of it.</p>

<p>This guy is a complete phony. The more he says, the more obvious it is that he’s completely full of himself. I don’t even trust the information he posted anymore. Am I going to go easy on him? H*** no. Why should I?
He started this thread to get feedback and I’m giving feedback. If he can’t handle it, he shouldn’t be posting on a public forum.
Even if the OP has nothing more to gain from this, I at least want to teach a lesson for other people who are reading this thread. *If people online can tell that you’re a phony, then Ivy League shouldn’t have any problems. *</p>

<p>I applied RD to Cornell University, and I can admit that I don’t have a very good chance. It’s funny isn’t it. I think the confidence of Ivy League applicants runs on a curve. The ones at the top trust that they will be accepted. Then, as the profiles of the applicants drop, their confidence also drops. However, once you get to a certain point, the average confidence starts to rise again because those people are so stupid that they think they have a good chance of getting accepted. </p>

<p>“His GPA is somewhat low but decent considering the difficulty of the course load and his ECs.”</p>

<p>I don’t care how you spin it, applying into Ivy League with a B average is not decent!
And, wow, he has so many amazing EC’s. lolololololololol</p>

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<p>“His GPA is somewhat low but decent considering the difficulty of the course load and his ECs.”</p>

<p>but if there is another applicant taking 6+ AP classes and getting As...wouldnt they want that student instead of this straight B student? yea i thought so</p>

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<p>heh, i really can't figure out why this thread keeps going. Does it make you feel better about yourselves?</p>

<p>Apparently its me vs all of you for whatever reason, and I obviously can't win. But what is the argument here? I don't even get it.</p>

<p>I started the thread with the same info my colleges will see. They will see a book published under my name, and can take that for what they will. They will see it was published in middle school, and are free to look it up. Again, it is not that good, and I never told anyone that it was. I wrote a book and was persistant enough to get it published. That's it.</p>

<p>I in no way said I will get accepted to Cornell. Of course i highly doubt I will. The "arrogance" you're describing is just me not completely giving up. I mean, why should I? Stranger things have happened with college admissions, including a friend of mine with a 1.0 GPA going to UMD: College Park. I might as well see what will happen.</p>

<p>I don't get how i'm a "phony". I don't get how i'm "pompous". I don't even see what I said to make this thread suddenly turn into a bashfest. </p>

<p>pretty strange. =/</p>

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<p>Butterbattle - please lay off the guy. </p>

<p>Did you attend the Ivy League or do you work on admissions? </p>

<p>If you answer yes to either question, you will already know that plenty of people with B averages get in for a variety of reasons. </p>

<p>Please - end the thread.</p>

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<p>Whoa guys. applejack is right, lay off communisthunter (so do you hunt commies or are you one? lol). I think his ECs are really good, esp book thing. I'm not sure putting down undecided was such a good idea, and that GPA is a bit low for Cornell. But also recognize that Cornell looks at people holistically and when you have a interesting background (I'm not sure how Russian you are in terms of language and culture, but being diverse in culture and expressing that is always a good thing.) and it is, (no one get mad at me for this please) arguably the easiest Ivy to get into and it's not a crapshoot like HYP (and Columbia College), but actually makes sense.</p>

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<p>A 3.0 GPA isn't just "a bit low." It's very very low. The SAT score is okay but slightly below average for Cornell. Cornell needs students who can handle the rigor of its courses. The OP's biggest (and probably only) distinguishing feature is his book, the quality of which has been called into question. The essays do elicit strong reactions, unfortunately most of them are negative. </p>

<p>The title of this thread reads "I'm way too self confident =)). It doesn't read "I have no self esteem and am on the verge of suicide." Maybe that's why people feel they can be a little more candid than normal.</p>

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<p>MODERATOR'S NOTE: </p>

<p>This thread was reported to the moderation team. I see a lot of dire predictions here but I don't see a violation of the College Confidential Terms of Service upon a quick perusal of the thread. (If I missed something, please be sure to report it from the "Report Problem Post" link in the specific post with a problem.) </p>

<p>Here's a direct question for the OP: is this discussion helpful to you? Are you getting some ideas out of all the replies? </p>

<p>Best wishes to the OP and to everyone else who has a pending application just now.</p>

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<p>But, until them...........I'm not done yet.</p>

<p>"Did you attend the Ivy League or do you work on admissions?"
I'm a senior in high school. lolololol</p>

<p>"If you answer yes to either question, you will already know that plenty of people with B averages get in for a variety of reasons."</p>

<p>No. No. Therefore, my answer is that I don't know anybody who got into Ivy League with a B average, and I'm pretty sure you don't either. </p>

<p>"I think his ECs are really good."
Well, you can think that all you want but it still won't be true. </p>

<p>"esp book thing"
What book?</p>

<p>"I'm not sure putting down undecided was such a good idea."
Maybe Cornell loved it.</p>

<p>"that GPA is a bit low for Cornell."
Antarctica in July is a bit cold. </p>

<p>"I'm not sure how Russian you are in terms of language and culture, but being diverse in culture and expressing that is always a good thing."
Wow, he is not 100% White American! That is so interesting! I'm sure that will make up for, like, everything else. </p>

<p>"it's not a crapshoot like HYP (and Columbia College),"
Uuuummm, what do mean by crapshoot? What?…is getting to accepted to Ivy League similar to pulling a slot machine? You are implying that it is based on luck, and it's not.</p>

<p>"Maybe that's why people feel they can be a little more candid than normal."
Exactly. </p>

<p>However, I want to approach this a different way; I am nicer to him than many of you (okay, bla bla bla, keep reading). If I hadn't been here, many of you guys would have given him more extravagant praise. Then, if you add that to his confidence, he’ll start anticipating an acceptance letter. Why wouldn’t he? So many different strangers told him that he was awesome.</p>

<p>If he even considered my words, it will help him a lot more than the “please stop, don’t be mean, pathos” people on here.</p>

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<p>Hey OP, check out this page</p>

<p>talk.collegeconfidential.com/profiles/2012/cornell-university</p>

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<p>Okay, young butterball -</p>

<p>"No. No. Therefore, my answer is that I don't know anybody who got into Ivy League with a B average, and I'm pretty sure you don't either. "</p>

<p>I graduated (with honors) from the Ivy League. I went to school with and have since worked with many people from top schools who got in with average GPAs and graduated with average GPAs (not that it's a regular topic of conversation). Colleges try to build into each class a mix of people of differing perspectives, backgrounds, and interests. Test scores are not the only consideration. </p>

<p>Please. You clearly do not know of what you speak.</p>

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<p>^ Okay, you got me there. I'm sorry.</p>

<p>But, you don't really believe the OP has a good chance of getting in...do you?</p>

<p>I don't know, his entire profile just doesn't seem to make sense. Almost like he's not even...real. It made me mad; I wanted to point it out, not just to lower him a few pegs, but to show everyone else. </p>

<p>Yes, I understand that people with low scores can get accepted, but certainly not very often, and when they do, it's because their low numbers were counterbalanced by other things: great essays, amazing EC's, special circumstances, etc. Just from what I see in this thread, he has NONE of those things. </p>

<p>Essays are subjective. If another person looked at them, he/she might like them. However, I don't like them all, which is why I criticized them. Aside from that, the OP also made countless conventional errors in his essays, essays that he is supposed to spend days pondering over and find several people to edit, at the very minimum. Spelling and grammar is not so subjective. </p>

<p>The only thing in his entire profile that seems to stand out is his "BOOK." Unfortunately, even after several people asked for the title of the book, he refuses to disclose it.</p>

<p>Okay, so I've made many assumptions, exaggerated many details, and made some errors. I'm a high school student; I should expect myself to. But, based on the information above, I still believe my position is justified, and I don't think that's going to change until I get to read the OP's book.</p>

<p>But, alright, I will leave. I've already made my opinion shout from every corner of this page. I'm sorry to everyone who was offended or hurt. </p>

<p>On the other hand, if anyone else wants to keep criticizing CommunistHunter's essays. By all means, continue.</p>

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<p>Thread's been beaten to death days ago, but i'll just add some stuff.</p>

<p>I will admit the second essay was a bit rushed. Maybe looked at it for a couple days with a few edits with teachers. </p>

<p>But the first I can actually say took weeks, maybe a month, and had countless edits. Yes, it doesnt follow conventional grammer, and is very unorthodox in it's ending, but that was the point. It got more...unorthodox with every edit, and perhaps that was the mistake. Maybe I did completely miss the ball with what I was trying to do, but it was a lesson learned I guess.</p>

<p>Funny thing is, I believe i'm short one SAT subject test for CAS anyway, which will probably disqualify me. Funny how that works, eh? :)</p>

<p>Maybe I should have stuck with essays like this one that I used for the first school i applied to this year.</p>

<p>here, if anyone wants to read:</p>

<p>
[quote]
</p>

<p>question: does truth suffer from too much analysis?</p>

<p>It was quiet: far too quiet.</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>There it was again! The awful insistent sound brought a chill down her spine every time she heard it. Where were the others? Why was she so alone?</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>She stopped at 5th street. If she continued, she would run right into them, and there was no way she could take them all on. She had to get away; she had to turn back. But what if it was too late?</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>And then she saw him, his ashen white robe only emphasizing his eerily pale countenance. He moved quickly and silently, approaching from the northeast, each step a further threat to her safety.</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>She turned around to find a steed just as pale as its holy counterpart; the beast’s demonic eyes staring right into her. She cursed her lack of foresight as she backed away.</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>Her steps quickly broke into a desperate run. “Help me!” she yelled, “Someone please help!” Yet she had nowhere to go, as three men now stood in her way—three men of the same height, the same face, the same capabilities. Their unassuming appearance may have fooled others, but not her. She knew any of them could kill in an instant.</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>She heard a deafening roar from behind, finding that the beast was gone. Her expression soon mirrored the smile of the man now standing in its place, his familiar black robe and pious presence offering some temporary comfort.</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>They had to get out. There was a small opening to the south where maybe they could find safety. She led the way, quickly finding that he could not move at her pace. Few, after all, were blessed with her speed and agility.</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>She heard a scream so shrill that she could not look back. She knew he was gone: her only companion pushed to the side in battle. But she could still escape; she still had a chance.</p>

<pre><code>Click.
</code></pre>

<p>Another beast landed right in front of her, its roar knocking her off her feet. It was the perfect trap: she was completely surrounded. “There must be a way out,” she thought. She had to stay alive.</p>

<p>She could knock down the beast and turn onto 3rd street; there was no doubt she could handle him herself. But the noise of their battle could easily attract the others. She could turn onto 4th, knowing full well that the beast would be right behind her. But what if the man in the ashen robe was there? After all, she had not seen him for almost half an hour. Yet what if she turned back and attacked the three little men? Sure they were dangerous, but if she could just get past them, oh the options she would have. But she had to stay alive, at any cost.</p>

<pre><code>Silence.
</code></pre>

<p>“Checkmate!”</p>

<p>My queen was alive; there was no way they would ever take her. But in my obsession with her safety, my king was not.</p>

<p>Perhaps overanalyzing a situation isn’t as helpful as you’d think.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>and perhaps I overanalyzed college essays too much. :)</p>

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<p>butterbattle, getting into HYP IS 50% based on luck
i'm sure the majority of HYP applicants each year are perfect students;
an ex- Harvard admission officer once told me that at times she had to literally close her eyes and pull one application out of the a pile of perfect applications, and whoever it was got accepted.</p>

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<p>Sorry, but I couldn't resist.</p>

<p>I will not talk about the OP's new essay unless he wants me to comment.</p>

<p>^^^ However, I couldn’t ignore this.</p>

<p>
[quote]
butterbattle, getting into HYP IS 50% based on luck

[/quote]

Excellent imaginary statistic to begin your argument. </p>

<p>
[quote]
i'm sure the majority of HYP applicants each year are perfect students;

[/quote]

Excellent assumption that contradicts your first line.</p>

<p>
[quote]
an ex- Harvard admission officer once told me that at times she had to literally close her eyes and pull one application out of the a pile of perfect applications, and whoever it was got accepted.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I am truly amazed by your BS. I applaud.
1) Why would an ex-admissions officer tell you this?
2) ummmm, don't top colleges have, like, uuummmm, committees that discuss
and vote on applications. I'm pretty sure it's not just, uuummmm, one
person.
3) What is a perfect application? For the sake of simplicity, let's<br>
assume that all of the applications had identical G.P.A.s, class ranks, and
test scores, etc. Do they have the same essays? NO. Do they have the
same EC's? NO. Do they have the same family background and personal<br>
circumstances. NO. Are they from the same high school of the same city
in the same state with the same race and same religion and same gender
and same parents and applying for the same major???? NOOOOOO. </p>

<p>In your scenario, why doesn't the admissions officer just pick the ones that she thinks are the best? Sure, it's possible that all the applications were very strong. It's also possible that the admissions officer was frequently unsure or hesitating and had to review the applications for a long time to make her decision. But, to say all the applications were "perfect" and that she closed her eyes and drew applications at random, that's hardly believable. </p>

<p>4) Maybe she's an ex-Harvard admissions officer because she got fired when
administrators caught her doing this. lololololololol

[quote]
I went to school with and have since worked with many people from top schools who got in with average GPAs and graduated with average GPAs (not that it's a regular topic of conversation).

[/quote]
</p>

<p>5) How can your statement and Applejack's statement both be true in the same universe? Unless you're also an Ivy League graduate, I'm going to go with him.</p>

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<p>I'm going to admit: I felt that we were way harsh on this kid at first; but now that I have actually managed to read through it ALL, I completely changed my mind.</p>

<p>Guys, Butterbattle is right. Stop trying to appear like Saints and going "you have a chance, CH! GOOD LUCK." The truth is, luck won't help him; unfortunately, I don't believe anything will.</p>

<p>We all try to dream of being in an Ivy, but the simple fact is that the NUMBERS take up the most important part of all applications for ivys. Candidly put, 90% of applicants for Ivys not only have absolutely outstanding stats, but extremely amazing ECs, essays, etc. Our young friend here, has.. well.. none of it. This might be brutal to here, but come on, let's face reality. The world itself is a Survival of the Fittest.</p>

<p>But I have to say, CommunistHunter, your chess essay was splendid. I didn't really look at it all too detailed in terms of grammar or spelling, but I have to say the last few lines caught most of my attention. At first, I just thought you were some psychotic rapist trying to tell a fictional story that was rather brutal, and the clicks were quite annoying. But the last few lines gave it all a nice twist, sort of like a good Shakespearean sonnet. The sad question is, can the adminofficer survive till the last few lines?</p>

<p>I've noticed that you have managed to avoid the question "What's the title of your book?" quite a few times. I don't need you to tell me, but I just thought that was an interesting fact. It just makes one's mind ponder about the valid existance of this "book", as you call it.</p>

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<p>
[quote]
butterbattle, getting into HYP IS 50% based on luck
i'm sure the majority of HYP applicants each year are perfect students;
an ex- Harvard admission officer once told me that at times she had to literally close her eyes and pull one application out of the a pile of perfect applications, and whoever it was got accepted.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>Yes, she pulled one application out of a stack of 2300+, 4.0 GPA freaks. It doesn't mean someone with a 3.0 has the same chances as someone with a 3.9. A 3.0 is really really low and it's not balanced by an impressive SAT score. </p>

<p>The chess essay is more interesting. Too bad you didn't send it to Cornell although I don't think 1 essay will undo 3 years of subpar grades.</p>

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<p>I believe you guys should check out this article.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/04/education/04colleges.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/04/education/04colleges.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Needless to say, these don't account for ECs or other stuff, but still...</p>

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<p>
[quote]
But I have to say, CommunistHunter, your chess essay was splendid.

[/quote]

[quote]
The chess essay is more interesting. Too bad you didn't send it to Cornell

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I hate to go against the flow yet, again, but I thought this essay was worse than the one about freedom. </p>

<p>
[quote]
Harvard turned down 1,100 student applicants with perfect 800 scores on the SAT math exam.

[/quote]
</p>

<p>I'm assuming, then, that the 1,100 did not have perfect scores in other areas. The same goes for the other statistics. The article also does not mention the people with lower scores who got accepted. It's a good article, but kind of biased, trying to scare people.</p>