Importance of ACT and SAT Subject Scores

<p>Nevermind.</p>

<p>^I think I’ve heard something more on the lines of anyone scoring over 600 on the SAT is capable of doing the work at Harvard.</p>

<p>I don’t think getting top scores makes nearly as much difference as great recommendations, rigourous courses, great GPA and some evidence of being involved in something at beyond the normal level (ECs, academics). But racking up 800s certainly isn’t going to hurt. I bet the number of kids at Harvard with double 500s are in the single digits and have very compelling stories.</p>

<p>Thanks guys for the info!</p>

<p>Roneald:</p>

<p>I got a 35.5. I back off a lil when people say, “you got a perfect score!”…because technically, I didn’t. Lol. ( 36 E, 36M, 34 R, 36 S, damn you reading! jk)</p>

<p>Out of curiosity, have you made your decision as to where you’re going to school?</p>

<p>i don’t mean to be an upper, well actually i do, but these were my scores and i was waitlisted this year.</p>

<p>act 30
sat 2010
bio 650
math 2 610
us history 530
ap bio 4</p>

<p>anything is possible. just shine in others ways and you never know. i definitely wrote sick essays tho.</p>

<p>Lol yeah I got a 35.5 too :smiley: (36 Math, 35 English, 36 Reading, 35 Science).</p>

<p>Honestly though, whoever looks at my stats should take them with a SUPER grain of salt, because as I said my school was EXTREMELY competitive, and literally without a 2300/35 its impossible to even get a second look from ivys. I know people with 3.8s/2200’s that didn’t even get into UCLA.</p>

<p>Honestly, I had a pretty great overall application (as shown by the other schools I got into), and I had extracirriculars, letters of rec, great essays, and good scores, but sometimes things just don’t work out, but you can’t be disappointed.</p>

<p>I got into Berkeley, Emory, Notre Dame, Cornell, and UPenn (Wharton), and I think I’m going to end up going to Cornell (full ride! :D).</p>

<p>Just to add to the stats, I was waitlisted to Harvard with:</p>

<p>SAT: 2370 (800 R, 800 M, 770 W)
ACT: 35 (36 R, 36 S, 34 E, 33 M)
SAT II: 800 US Hist, 800 Bio E, 770 Math II
UW GPA: 4.00 (W: 4.81)
Rank: 3/401</p>

<p>I went to a good public high school (about ~100 in Newsweek rankings), and I worked hard in IB, band, and other things. Honestly, with so many kids applying these days, test scores aren’t going to be that essential. They’re still important of course…but when parents will pay $1000s for their kids to get SAT crash courses, the scores don’t speak for that much. When all the Ivy Leagues (plus Duke, Stanford, MIT, etc.) get 20,000+ apps for about 2-4,000 acceptances each, a lot of great applicants will get rejected. So just work on the essay and recs and hope for the best. </p>

<p>I got a full ride from Emory and full tuition from Duke and Washington St. Louis, so it still worked out well for me. I’ll probably end up at Duke, so go Blue Devils!</p>

<p>This year, for the first time we can recall, two student were accepted to Harvard by D’s high school (last year there was one and that was about 9 years after the one before that). </p>

<p>While I know my daughter’s scores, and not fully the other students, I had heard rough correlation of the two student’s scores. D’s were a 35 on the ACT but a 2080 SAT I, 790 Math II, 740 Math I, 780 Bio, 730? Chem. </p>

<p>My recollection is that the other student’s SAT I was not better than hers (or at most close to the same), lower overall on the SAT IIs, and that the ACT had not improved his application. BUT he got in almost everywhere he applied; Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Tufts, Johns Hopkins, etc.</p>

<p>Point is that the scores have to be good enough, but scores are not everything</p>

<p>Scores give you cold numbers and human beings (except admissions officers) are programmed to place numbers in exact numerical order. So the kid with a 2340 feels superior to the kid with a 2320 and they both feel inferior to the kid with a 2400. But to the admissions officer they all look about the same.</p>

<p>^ Lol vicariousparent your name is very suited for a parent on this board :D</p>

<p>Honestly sometimes whether you have the grades or not, a certain aspect of the application is luck.</p>

<p>I mean I don’t want to put my full application on here but by no means was I a “book worm”.quite the contrary, I always focused more on extracirriculars than grades. I was Varsity Captain for 3 different sports, was State Cabinet for JSA, regional president for Red Cross, and had over 500 hours as a volunteer sports coach. </p>

<p>There are hundreds of qualified applicants who didn’t get in. If you have above a 2000 on the SAT and a 31 on the ACT, they’ll look at your application, and after that its just a matter of whether they like you and luck.</p>

<p>That being said, good luck to you! Similar to metb29, things worked out for me too, and I hope they do for you as well.</p>

<p>Aww man…roneald, you make me feel like I have absolutely no hope for next year T_T. Your application seems to be the closest thing to perfection there is, and as I got my SAT II scores back, which were a lot less than I was hoping for, I don’t feel so great about my chances. </p>

<p>By the way, here are my scores: I know we’ve all said that scores aren’t the only things that matter, but would the discrepancy between my actual SAT and the SAT IIs be an issue? Also, I have lots of other extracurriculars/volunteering/research and publications which I am willing to share if that would help to decide whether I stand a reasonable chance or not</p>

<p>SAT: 2390 (800 Math, 800 CR, 790 Writing) (1st attempt/not score choice)
SAT IIs: 760 (Literature and US History(2nd attempt for US)) 770 Chemistry and will be taking SAT II Math</p>

<p>I will only show my two highest SAT II scores.</p>