Importance of High School Performance?

<p>Hello,</p>

<p>When a student is attempting to transfer for her junior year (which means sending in applications winter of her soph year), does she have to include any high school information? Like high school transcripts or hs activities? Or just transcripts and activities during her time at college?</p>

<p>Also, if high school information is needed for transferring, is much precedence given to it? I would hope college grades and activities would have MUCH more influence than what a student did back in high school.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>for junior year, it doesn't matter much at all,</p>

<p>freshman year, it matters considerably, and so do ur sat scores</p>

<p>if u had a terrible hs record, and ur sats are below 1300, u need to wait till ur junior year</p>

<p>I was hoping that transferring for junior year would be enough distance from my high school stats. My hs stats weren't awful but they weren't anything too good.</p>

<p>So that means I will still have to turn in hs transcripts, though?</p>

<p>if you're in your freshman year appplying for entry in sophomore year, your high school grades will matter a lot seeing as you have just one term of college under your belt (and doing well for one term means very little.) as mentioned above and elsewhere, if you're a sophomore applying for junior year entry, your high school record will matter considerably less.</p>

<p>the main point to take home is this: your high school grades and your SAT scores serve to predict college performance. however, if you've been in college for three terms, the adcom can see how well you perform in a college environment. thus, the value of the SAT I and high school grades is greatly diminished. however, they still have some value in their eyes because colleges differ in terms of difficulty, and the SAT is still a national benchmark against which we are all measured and can be compared.</p>

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edit: if you look in archives, there are some people here who got into some pretty good schools (brown, iirc) with strong SATs and atrocious high school grades.</p>

<p>That was really helpful.</p>

<p>Could you answer this SAT/ACT question I have? I heard that if you're planning to transfer, you can retake the SAT and/or ACT and send in those scores instead of the ones that you received back in high school. </p>

<p>Is that true, and if it is, is it advisible? It might be safe to assume that if you take the SAT and ACT during college, you might score higher than you did when you took it in high school, and therefore have more competitive SAT or ACT scores to transfer than if you went with the original hs scores.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>i would argue that unless your score was really deficient, it isn't worth it.</p>

<p>note that "deficient" can have different meanings depending on the context of your application(s)...to most of the ivies/stanford/ivy-caliber schools, 1450+ is probably good enough that it isn't worth retaking it...</p>

<p>anything below 1400 is definitely worth reconsidering.</p>

<p>for schools right below those like northwestern, univ. of chicago, georgetown, etc. i think that 1400 is acceptable, but anything below 1350 is worth reconsidering.</p>

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<p>to render all this a bit more clear: generally you dont want to see any SAT I/II scores with the first digit below '7'. in any case, the higher, the better, especially with the more competitive schools.</p>

<p>if you're going to transfer into your junior year, you don't have to take the SATs right? Or is it recommmended?</p>

<p>i suspect that each school is different. check the individual applications; some of them do require it... generally the more competitive ones request that you take the SAT I or the ACT, at the very least.</p>

<p>The college website and/or transfer application packet should state exactly what is needed in order to apply. Generally, colleges only want freshman and sophomore (1st and 2nd year) college information for candidates applying for junior class (3rd year) admittance.</p>

<p>Exact requirements may vary slightly by college. Always check the college website first before asking questions.</p>

<p>Do the UC's want you to take the SAT/ACT if you wanna transfer into your junior year?</p>

<p>I checked the UC site, but can't really find anything about it. Either that or I'm just not looking hard enough.</p>

<p>You do not have to submit SAT/ACT or whatever BS scores because they are irrelevant for UC admission as a junior transfer.</p>