<p>i was just wondering how important it is for me to take a language subject test for admissions. I'm taking chemistry math and World history in june. After i signed up i read that Penn wants a language test so i was just wondering. Idk if it matters or not but im president of german club, and taking german 5 AP next year, will that help me or should i definitely take the subject test in that fall of next year?</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>I personally didn't take a language test, and I'm in the college now. Considering your extensive coursework in German, I wouldn't be too concerned, although you can contact the admissions office if you're concerned.</p>
<p>I actually took the French test after studying on my own even though I didnt take any classes in it. I only made a 550 which is bad, and I was accepted this year. Granted, I did have 800, 790, 780, and 760 on the other subject tests. So the test was probably inconsequential, but honestly I don't think you need it no matter what other tests you take.</p>
<p>which books did you study from? My D is also taking it in June.</p>
<p>like anything it won't make or break your application. i got an 800 in german w/ listening, and was waitlisted, while i know other people who did not take the tests and were accepted. Unless you really mess it up it won't hurt you though, the test itself isn't that hard (pretty easy curve from what I saw). If you can, I'd say take the test, if for no other reason than to familiarize yourself with the format (SAT 2 w/ listening is similar to half of an AP). Also, if you have strong conversational skills, everyone I have talked to suggested taking the listening version of the test (only available in november if i'm not mistaken) while those with a better basis in the foundations of german grammar tend to fare better on the test without listening. in either case, best of luck!</p>
<p>lovemom - I was only able to find the Princeton review book that was actually for the test (didnt find kaplan), which was alright. However, I would recommend finding immersion software such as rosetta stone at a more advanced level, but those can be expensive...</p>
<p>c-max.tx, do you still need the immersion software if you are taking only the regular test; i.e., no listening?</p>
<p>alright thanks very much i was worried about that, and saturday i am taking chem, but i have not taken AP chem, am i in big trouble?</p>
<p>it's going to depend on your curriculum for whatever your first chem class was. I took honors chem at my high school and the only things I encountered on the SAT2 that I wasn't familiar with were "polymerization reaction" (it was just identifying one, so i knew it from bio) and i think there may have been a bit of thermo/reaction rates which were not covered in my class, but it was only on a very basic level and looking over a p-set for a couple of hours on either subject would suffice for studying. The one thing that really got me though was the qualitative stuff (colors of ions, mostly) which I wish I knew was on the test, but I'll take a 790 any day.</p>
<p>haha im not thinking it was quite as in depth we just ended with lewis structures and redox reactions, so like equalibreums and different stuff were missed, but thank you</p>
<p>lovemom - I'm not saying that kind of thing is necessary in any case, but it sure is helpful, since it is the fastest and most effective way to study on your own. Of course, the most important way to know what you need is to take practice tests to guage where your daughter is. And if she's comfortable then she may not need to do any studying at all. So to answer your question in a nutshell - it is unimportant that you are not taking the test with listening; the test requires a mastery of the language that must include the ability tohear and speak somewhat fluently in order to get an impressive score.</p>
<p>Krisko - yes the chemistry test xcan be quite in depth for anyone who hasn't seriously studied all the topics covered in a typical high school chemistry book some time in their life.</p>