<p>How important are the SAT subject tests (I'm applying to Ivies)? More important than SAT Reasoning/GPA/Rank/other stats?</p>
<p>I got low 600s on literature and math 2 :( Does this kill my chance of getting into an Ivy League?</p>
<p>My stats:
GPA: (international) 95%
Rank: Top 3%
SAT Reasoning: 2200
SAT Subject Tests: 630 (Lit), 640 (Math II) <<horrible</p>
<p>I know that my essays are really good and that the teachers' recs are amazing. </p>
<p>Please help me out!</p>
<p>They are def not more important than the SAT Reasoning, but they are def important since they validate your GPA, simply retake Math 2 and take another one other than lit and send those two scores in instead of the ones you recieved. </p>
<p>Are you a senior?</p>
<p>^yes, I’m a senior. I’m thinking of doing Math I, actually, since Math II was too hard for me. </p>
<p>Any other opinions?</p>
<p>I posted a reply to this question in the other thread. Sorry I’m too lazy to copy/paste! :(</p>
<p>Which is more important: SAT Reasoning or SAT Subject Tests?
(one opinion way up there^)</p>
<p>SAT I is way more important, but I’m in the same boat as you (630 lit, 690 math) and am really hoping this has not killed my chances, because I can’t retake.</p>
<p>You have both December and Jan to make up for those two scores.</p>
<p>Take Math 1 instead then and another test which you feel you could do well on.</p>
<p>The SAT Reasoning is probably a bit more important than the subject tests, but that doesn’t mean that good SAT I scores make up for bad SAT II scores. Your chances aren’t necessarily blown, but I can’t say that they’re good. Hopefully your ECs and demonstrated passion can set you apart. From what I’ve seen, international applicants usually need very high stats.</p>
<p>^oh no. I’m international 
and Asian. Even worse. There go my chances…</p>
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<p>I wouldn’t say this is necessarily the case at some schools, particularly at Harvard. The dean of admissions there has been quoted several times saying that SAT II’s are actually more valuable predictors of success in college than the SAT I, since the former tests content-based knowledge. To the OP, if you are not satisfied with your scores, you can retake them in December or January (but only if the colleges you’re applying to accept scores from the January testing date).</p>
<p>Wow, crazy that there’s such a discrepancy between your SAT score and SAT II scores. </p>
<p>Maybe that’s why some colleges take the SAT + SAT IIs or just an ACT. </p>
<p>Retake?</p>
<p>Large discrepancies between SAT I and SAT II scores actually aren’t all that uncommon. I know a girl in my class who has above a 2300 on the SAT I, but got scores in the mid to low 600’s on SAT II’s that have relatively large curves (Math II and Chemistry) and even a 490 on the subject test in U.S. History. Granted, she hadn’t yet completed a full year of USH prior to taking the subject test (which is a REALLY bad idea).</p>
<p>I’d say that SAT I and SAT II are of equal importance (any difference is, in my opinion, negligible). But, OP, just retake your subject tests and let those Ivies know that you will be submitting scores from 12/2010 or (if they allow it) 1/2011.</p>
<p>Bottom line, just re-take your subject tests. Your chances would go up if you could get them into the 700 range. </p>
<p>But also… I don’t understand why you NEED to get into an Ivy League. Just because they’re prestigious doesn’t mean they’re the only good universities in the country… there are probably dozens of other schools that have a good name/prestige and that you’d be very happy at.</p>
<p>^ As an international, I would assume this is primarily about financial aid and secondarily about prestige. (That is not to say that prestige is unimportant 
) Then again, I would not want to impose judgment on RainbowSparkles based on my situation…</p>
<p>I’m not only applying to Ivies; I’m also applying to schools like Johns Hopkins. I’m considering taking Math I and/or Bio M in December. I’m kind of upset that my SAT II scores are so low, since I’m in the Asian pool.</p>
<p>I just sent my Score Verification form in today. I hope they’ll receive it soon, and respond ASAP.</p>
<p>Question: Will doing medical research at a well-known hospital make me stand out amongst other applicants? I haven’t published a paper or anything, but I do work in a lab and do research with doctors (I wrote the Common App short essay on an EC on this)</p>
<p>Does this increase my chances as an international applicant? (refer to my basic stats on page 1)</p>
<p>Thanks a bunch!</p>