important AP question about credit

<p>When we create our bookbag and then register for classes, how do we know whether we have received CREDIT for a class instead of just PLACEMENT in the next higher class without receiving credit for the one we skipped? I mean, I want to make sure that if I take Math 103 and skip Math 31 and 32, I will receive credit for those classes. Otherwise, what is the point of "placing" into a higher class if you get no credit for the previous ones and the class I take is significantly harder?</p>

<p>You can only use AP credit for two elective classes, meaning they can't be used to fulfill Trinitiy distribution requirements. So you can ask that your AP Calc credits transfer in as electives. But that's not something you have to worry about now.</p>

<p>What's the point? IIRC, the intro math classes are the most failed at Duke. You won't be retaking AB or BC Calc and easily boosting your GPA. Trust me.</p>

<p>I would also recommend reading this if you want to see the official policy:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.aas.duke.edu/trinity/t-reqs/limitations.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.aas.duke.edu/trinity/t-reqs/limitations.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Frisbee, the only point to "credit" is that you reduce the number of classes you have to take from 34. The most you could possibly reduce it is reducing it to 32. Trust me, the placement is really the more valuable aspect.</p>

<p>What are distribution requirements?</p>

<p>Wait, in Pratt, I thought that you could only use 2 elective credits in humanities, but you could use as many math and science credits as you have credit for.</p>

<p>And one more thing: if you look on this website, it shows Math 31L and Math 32L 1st and 2nd semester. So if I wanted to do Math 103 1st semester, what math would I take 2nd semester? Something too advanced? And why is there a social science elective in the schedule; freshman can only do 4.5 credits max, right? </p>

<p><a href="http://www.pratt.duke.edu/academics/planning.php%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.pratt.duke.edu/academics/planning.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>What were your freshman schedules?</p>

<p>You know there is such a thing as an edit button.</p>

<p>After Math 103, engineering students usually take the 107/108 sequence.</p>

<p>UltimateFrisbee- <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=79226%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=79226&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>For Math 103, I'd go for Bray. Not as good as Hodel, but better than the rest. Alternately, you could take Math 41 in the fall with Hodel and then take 103 in the spring, which is what many people did.</p>

<p>I don't understand why people were enrolled in classes that had 0.0 credits and labs from 1:15 to 5:15? Are they crazy?</p>

<p>That's part of the class... if you're enrolled in chemistry, you are in a lecture as well as a lab... they have you enroll in the lab seperately so that they can have a large number of labs and only one or two lecture sections. To do this, they give one credit to the lecture portion and no credit for the lab, though your grade in the lab counts towards your grade in the class.</p>

<p>So, so take this schedule:</p>

<p>CHEM 21L GENERAL CHEMISTRY Enrolled Credits : 1.0
002 M W F 11:55 AM-12:45 PM Gross Chem 107
Palmer,Richard ACrumbliss,Alvin L
45L W 1:15 PM-5:15 PM Gross Chem 203A
Staff,Departmental </p>

<p>EGR 53L COMP METH IN ENGINEERING Enrolled Credits : 1.0
002 M F 10:05 AM-11:20 AM TBA </p>

<p>EGR 10 INTRO TO ENGINEERING Enrolled Credits : 0.5
01 Th 4:25 PM-5:40 PM TBA </p>

<p>EGR 53L9 COMP METH IN ENGINEERING (LAB) Enrolled Credits : 0.0
03 Tu 2:50 PM-5:40 PM Teer 106
Gustafson,Michael R </p>

<p>EGR 53R COMP METH IN ENGINEERING Enrolled Credits : 0.0
01 Tu 10:05 AM-11:20 AM TBA
Gustafson,Michael R </p>

<p>MATH 103 INTERMEDIATE CALCULUS Enrolled Credits : 1.0
10 Tu Th 1:15 PM-2:30 PM Physics 05
Pardon,William L </p>

<p>WRITING 20 ACADEMIC WRITING Enrolled Credits : 1.0
31 Tu Th 11:40 AM-12:55 PM Carr 242
Topic: WHAT IS GOTHIC?
Halloran,Jennifer </p>

<p>Total Credits : 4.5</p>

<p>What is EGR 53L9 and EGR 53R. I thought there was just one EGR 53L. Are the other two just labs that count towards the 53L class grade? And why does the class meet on Tuesday twice: from 10:05 to 11:20 and then from 2:50 to 5:40? Are you kidding me? That's insane!!!
And what is "Gross Chem" and "45L". Does chemistry meet twice on Wednesday also for the lab?</p>

<p>Haha, Ultimate....calm down, buddy.</p>

<p>Generally, if something is followed by an "R," that means Recitation. "L" means it's a Lab class, and "L9" is specifically the lab component. Unfortunately, some classes are much more time demanding than others - especially engineering and lab classes. That's the way the cookie crumbles.</p>

<p>"Gross Chem" is the name of the building - the class was held in room 107. And the "45L" is simply the section number of the Gross Chem class - on ACES, there would also be 44L, 46L, etc. The schedule therefore says that the Chem LECTURE is on MWF from 11:55-12:45, and the lab is on Wednesdays from 1:15-5:15. This student chose to have it this way - if he/she didn't want Chem twice in one day, providing it fit his/her schedule and there was room in the section, the lab could be from 1:15-5:15 on, say, Thursdays or something. I believe that all Chemistry labs are 4 or 5 hours.</p>

<p>Ok, so when do freshman register for spring courses?</p>

<p>November - though just try and get together what you need for the fall and take some classes you're interested in. Your advisor will be there when you arrive, and you will meet with him/her again in Oct. before you register.</p>

<p>What's the point of placing into Math 103 if I will still have to take 5 math courses at Duke regardless. I might as well take two easy ones (32 and 33) instead of going straight into multivariable. Right?</p>

<p>Whoah - breathe...just....breathe.</p>

<p>1) EGR 53 has three components - lecture EGR 53L (2 x 75 minutes), recitation EGR 53R (1 x 75 minutes), and lab EGR 53L9 (1 x 170 minutes). Since there are 9 different recitation sections and 9 different lab sections, you can switch to have them on different days if you choose. However, as an introduction to computational methods, document preparation software, data acquisition and controls, and for some people, computers in general - it takes some time. (or, in other words, "Welcome to Pratt - I'll be your host for the fall.")</p>

<p>2) As an engineer, you need to take MTH 31, 32, 103, 107, 108 and generally STA 113 though some departments (ME, for example) have a slightly more relaxed requirement for the last course. You do not have to take 5 math classes at Duke - if you come in with credit for 31/32, then you will be required to take 3 more.</p>

<p>3) Also as an engineer, don't let Trinity folks scare you about APs :) You can only use 2 APs to satisfy the 5 Trinity distribution requirements BUT you can use all physics, math, chemistry, biology, etc. The distribution requirements are listed in the bulletin on the registrar site.</p>

<p>4) Your schedule looks fine. You may want to look at not having EGR53R and L9 on the same day, but even if you do, not a huge deal. </p>

<p>Dr. G</p>

<p>FOCUS does wonders:
<a href="http://bygmester.org/oldschedule.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://bygmester.org/oldschedule.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And then Pratt and extracurriculars got revenge second semester:
<a href="http://bygmester.org/schedule.jpg%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://bygmester.org/schedule.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>My advice after doing all this? Don't schedule like an ass - and by that, I mean don't put your classes so close together. Space them out a bit. Essentially missing lunch every monday and friday every week second semester was a pain in the ass, especially when I woke up too late to get breakfast.</p>

<p>Ultimate: Your example tuesday doesn't work out. You have a time conflict between your EGR53L9 lab section and EGR10, and the way your classes are set up, you're going to have straight class from 10:05am to 5:40pm without even a lunch break - just 20 minute breaks between classes. I'd bet that some of those switches you're going to need to make will be between East Campus and West Campus in those 20 minutes too. Give yourself more time if at all possible! First semester, I had to make two transfers in under 20 minutes every Monday and Wednesday, and the result was I was often late for two classes every day, and always felt harried and rushed and unprepared for each class.</p>

<p>Joe....first semester? I must not have known you that well then, because I can't remember a time when you were that free. WOW.</p>

<p>oh my god joe. what in the world is EMT-I?</p>

<p>also- nice to see another SoCal kid :) even though you're a 2009er. I'm from the San Fernando Valley (LA).</p>