<p>I recently looked at studentreviews.com. Saw a lot of posters saying that instate and outofstate students don't get along too well. So I talked to a friend of mine who is a freshman at UNC and she kind of confirmed it. She said that the instate students stay together with high school friends and so the outofstate students tend to form their own group. I don't know about anyone else, but this doesn't sound good to me. </p>
<p>Are there any current students who lurk on this board who can tell me what they think about this? </p>
<p>Also, many of the reviews complained that the classes really weren't all that challenging. Are there any honors students or Moreheads who are on this board who can comment?</p>
<p>MM - My d is an oos honors student who lives in a dorm with a lot of other honors students...some instate, some oos. They all get along very well. I hear Granville Towers (private dorm) is mostly instate kids who are interested in pledging, so maybe the story is different there. The situation will truly be what you make of it.</p>
<p>Also, my d tells me her honors classes are extremely challenging. She isn't taking any classes that she would consider an easy A. Most everyone on her hall works really hard, so if there are easy classes, I'm sure they'd love to know where to sign up.</p>
<p>(btw...I've seen studentreviews.com. It seems that the negative comments came from just a couple of people who weren't doing so well academically. You can tell by comparing their comments with the majors data. They give enough away for you to connect the dots.)</p>
<p>My son is an OOS junior Morehead and his circle of friends is and always has been very diverse, that is to say mixed with in-state and oos (which has nothing to do with the Morehead btw), but I know for a fact that he has a large number of in-state friends. Like ldmom's d he has taken many honors classes and many of his friendships were formed that way.</p>
<p>I have never heard of any problems between in-state and OOS students in the three years that he has been there, in fact quite the opposite.</p>
<p>Honors classes can be quite challenging, are taught at a higher level and come with higher expectations of the students taking them as far as work load etc. </p>
<p>As ldmom has already said, the naysayers on sites like studentreviews.com usually have their own agendas based on their own issues (read shortcomings) and don't represent the majority of students at UNC.</p>
<p>The only negative thing I have seen was a student columnist who apparently doesn't like people from New Jersey... Other than that, the students I have been around always seemed to be hanging out in groups with in-state and out-of-state well-represented.</p>
<p>I agree that in-staters & out-of-staters mix quite well. There really aren't any "problems" between the two "groups". In fact, I would think it would be pretty silly to be prejudiced against people who are simply from a different state.</p>
<p>And yeah...a lot of the classes (including upper-level non-introductory classes) aren't really that challenging. As with any large school, challenging-ness varies from class to class, professor to professor, department to department. I slept through most of the infamous O-chem classes, and easily got an A. On the other hand, I'm working like crazy for one of my CS classes right now, and am making only the average.</p>
<p>As for honors classes, I only took two (had to drop out of the honors program since I couldn't fit the required honors classes into my schedule)...they were so-so. For one of them, I remember the prof didn't really teach that well. But there are some really super good ones. From what I heard, yeah a lot of the honors classes are more challenging, but at the same time it's easier to get a good grade in them.</p>
<p>My roomate/now best friend and I are both from OOS (pot-lucked our room assignments, though) and it was a running joke between us that we only hung out with a majority of OOS people. It was really strange at first, actually. We didn't intend for it to happen, but we just kept meeting OOS people at the beginning of the year.</p>
<p>However, it really has gotten better. My boyfriend is instate, and he doesn't hang out with hardly any of the people he knew from high school. In fact, most of the people in my dorm are either OOS or IS but don't hang out with their HS cliques.</p>
<p>I haven't noticed any animosity whatsoever.</p>
<p>I'm a freshman at UNC, and I can tell you I have seen no division between in-state and OOS kids. The only real division between students at UNC is Granville Kids and Regular Housing kids, but that is more of a frat/non-frat thing anyway, and even then its not a big deal at all.</p>
<p>i'm a freshman at unc... and i've lived in the area my entire life... despite the fact that i knew quite a few people going to unc, i came hoping for a fresh start... although i see people from my high school in passing, my group of friends is made up of out of state students and in state students from across NC... most of my roommate's friends came to unc and she kind of stuck with them for the first few weeks out of security but now she has expanded and does more with our new group of friends. Yes, you will find a few in-staters that stick together, but i feel they are in the minority... as time goes on people will branch out more.. in addition i have found that people come to college hoping for a fresh start and change and realize that their friends from high school might not have the same interests anymore... as soon as things started getting busy new groups of friends formed with in state and out of state students...</p>
<p>Thanks everyone, I am so glad to hear your comments. Another aspect I here is that a lot of the instaters go home each weekend, and Chapel Hill becomes a town of outofstaters at times. Do you find this to be true?</p>
<p>There are something like 19,000 undergrads, and I can assure you that there are not weekends where it becomes a "town of oos's." Sure, in state kids do go home on the weekend sometimes, but its not like there is a mass exodious of in staters. </p>
<p>Where are you hearing these rediculous statements about the school?</p>
<p>I'm from Durham (the next town over for anyone who is unfamiliar), and my freshman year, I never went home unless it was during a designated school break. Even though I went to college close to home, I really wanted to have the experience of going away to school, and a lot of my fellow in-state students desire the same thing. Even now that I'm a senior, I hardly ever go home, though I do go a bit more often since I have a car. UNC is not a "commuter campus" by any stretch of the imagination. The campus is always bustling on the weekends unless it's over a break, so no worries about that. :)</p>
<p>Also, I'd say about half of my friends are out of staters, and I'm only barely in touch with my best friend from high school who attends Carolina (there were 23 in my class who came with me, and I hardly see any of them). The myth about in staters only socializing with friends from high school is just that - a myth. There are a few who do, and I'm not saying that in staters don't remain friends with their high school buddies and don't keep in touch with them, but most kids want to create new identities and forge a new set of friendships in college, no matter where they're from. Also, many people are friends with their high school friends "by proximity," as in, they likely would not have been drawn to one another if not for being close by (before anyone takes offense, I'm not saying this is the case for all high school friendships, but I've found this to be a common sentiment among my college peers). These friendships understandably lose steam when you're in an environment where you can pick and choose friendships with those with whom you mesh best from among 16,000 people.</p>
<p>So, I'd say there are definite pros and cons of attending Carolina, but nonexistant "in state/out of state" rivalries should not factor among them.</p>