Interesting NY Times article Part #1

<p>January 1, 2006
Aid Lets Smaller Colleges Ask, Why Pay for Ivy League Retail?
By ALAN FINDER
MEADVILLE, Pa. - Lindsey Mackney's choice of colleges came down to two very different places: Boston University, with its urban appeal and lively youth culture, or Allegheny College, a small, friendly liberal arts institution here in the rolling hills of northwest Pennsylvania. </p>

<p>But in the end, Ms. Mackney said, the decision was simple. Boston, where tuition is now $31,530 a year, offered her no financial aid, while Allegheny awarded her a $50,000 merit scholarship, or $12,500 a year. That amounts to nearly a 50 percent discount of Allegheny's $26,650 tuition. </p>

<p>Squeezed on one side by state universities, whose tuition is a tiny fraction of what private colleges charge, and on the other by elite private institutions like Yale, Princeton or Amherst, private liberal arts colleges like Allegheny are routinely offering merit aid to students these days. Such scholarships are particularly pervasive in the Midwest, where many liberal arts colleges award them to as many as half or even three-quarters of their students. </p>

<p>The grants are not based on the traditional rationale of a family's financial need, but on academic achievement and the desire of colleges that are not among the nation's most prestigious to recruit high-achieving students. Sometimes, too, less elite colleges award merit aid simply to fill their freshman classes. </p>

<p>The result is a college pricing system that can feel as varied, or even mysterious, as buying airplane seats, with students sometimes shopping for the best deal. University officials, defending the era of $30,000-a-year tuitions, speak of a "sticker price" and "discount price" and note that many students do not pay close to the full costs of tuition. </p>

<p>"I call it a designer education at a discount price," said Margaret L. Drugovich, vice president of admission and financial aid at Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware, Ohio. "People have come to expect it."</p>

<p>So prevalent has the practice become that over the last decade, the amount of money granted in merit scholarships nationally grew to $7.3 billion in 2004 from $1.2 billion in 1994, said Kenneth E. Redd, director of research and policy analysis at the National Association of Student Financial Aid Administrators.</p>

<p>The amount of need-based assistance has also grown, though at a slower rate. Need-based grants, including those from private universities and from the state and federal governments, increased to $39.1 billion in 2004 from $18.6 billion in 1994, a 110 percent increase, Mr. Redd said.</p>

<p>Officials at midlevel liberal arts colleges say that as tuition costs rise, they have to use merit scholarships and other aggressive strategies, like waiving admission fees or paying partial airfare for some applicants' campus visits, to hold on to their precarious niche in American higher education.</p>

<p>The most prestigious private universities and colleges, which are swamped in applicants, seldom offer such aid.
Some private colleges and universities ranked just below the dozen or so most selective institutions offer it only on a limited basis. These institutions, large and small, tend to use merit aid to try to lure very talented students, which can enhance the statistical profile of their freshman class, on measures like average SAT scores, in the hope that this will move them up in college ranking guides.</p>

<p>But for less elite institutions, merit aid has become a critical tool to thrive and, in some cases, to survive, particularly as the rising cost of college has strained middle-class and even upper-middle-class families.</p>

<p>"They have to do this because the competitive pressures are just so enormous," said Robert A. Sevier, senior vice president of Stamats Communications, a marketing company in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, that works with colleges and universities. "Some schools have never recruited before - they only had to admit. Now they need to know how to recruit." </p>

<p>Still, while merit aid may be a valuable recruiting tool, it also carries financial burdens. Colleges have to make up the income they forgo through merit scholarships, which can amount to millions of dollars a year. Typically, college presidents use alumni donations and interest from endowments to offset the merit aid offered to students.</p>

<p>But most small liberal arts colleges do not have vast endowments. The challenge for college administrators is to balance the competitive advantages of awarding merit aid with the long-term risks it imposes.</p>

<p>"If you go too far in that direction, you end up without enough resources to have a good faculty and to do all the things you want to do," Richard J. Cook, the president of Allegheny College, said. "If you discount too much, you're on your way toward oblivion." </p>

<p>Critics of merit scholarships, including some admissions directors and the Lumina Foundation, which works to expand access to higher education, argue that the explosion of merit aid has limited the growth in financial assistance available to students who are most in need. But other educators disagree.</p>

<p>"In a lot of instances, the money for merit scholarships comes from a different source than the money for need-based grants," said Mr. Redd of the aid administrators' group. Many private colleges have raised money separately for merit scholarships, and some states have designated lottery revenue for merit aid. "A lot of this is new money, so to speak," he said.</p>

<p>Merit aid is essentially a deep discount meant to narrow the gap between the cost of a private liberal arts education, where tuition alone can cost from $25,000 to $32,000 a year, and the tuition at public universities, which generally ranges from $4,000 to $9,000 for in-state students.</p>

<p>Such scholarships enable admissions officials to shape a freshman class, offering incentives to attract students who are interested in majoring in less popular disciplines or in playing in the orchestra or who are from different parts of the country. It can also be an incentive for parents who are hesitant to spend large sums to send a child to a private college that is not among the most elite.</p>

<p>"Private colleges from a branding standpoint own the word expensive," said John T. Lawlor, the founder of the Lawlor Group, a marketing firm in Minneapolis that advises many liberal arts colleges. "Overcoming the price of attending is a perceived obstacle."</p>

<p>At Allegheny, about 75 percent of the college's 2,000 students receive some kind of financial aid, with about two-thirds getting need-based assistance and three-quarters receiving merit scholarships (many students receive both), W. Scott Friedhoff, Allegheny's vice president for enrollment, said.</p>

<p>At Lafayette College in Easton, Pa., in contrast, about 15 percent of the students are granted merit aid.
At Ohio Wesleyan, 95 percent of the students are on scholarships, with about 40 percent of them based solely on merit, said Dr. Drugovich, the vice president of admission and financial aid. </p>

<p>At Denison University in Granville, Ohio, 95 percent of incoming freshmen also have scholarships; university officials declined to disclose what proportion of the aid was based on financial need or merit.</p>

<p>"You can't just sit back and hope that the students come," said Perry Robinson, vice president and director of admissions at Denison. "You have to be constantly creative in what you do."</p>

<p>At Juniata College, a liberal arts institution with 1,400 students in Huntingdon, Pa., about 75 percent of the students receive merit aid, with an equal number also getting need-based assistance; many students are awarded both kinds of scholarships, Michelle Bartol, the dean of enrollment, said.</p>

<p>The scholarships have helped Juniata attract more and better students. But they carry a steep price. Juniata's discount rate - the amount of potential income it forgoes by offering students merit and need-based assistance - is nearly 50 percent, Ms. Bartol said. The average rate for liberal arts colleges is about 25 percent, said Mr. Sevier, the consultant from Iowa.</p>

<p>The reason Juniata decided to grant merit aid, despite its high cost, was simple. "The program was established because, quite frankly, we were not full in the early 90's," Ms. Bartol said.</p>

<p>Allegheny grants $23 million a year in need-based and merit scholarships. With an annual operating budget of about $75 million, Allegheny has a discount rate of about 30 percent. </p>

<p>The college has experienced a surge in interest from high school seniors in recent years, in part because of merit aid, but also because it has found a way to differentiate itself from other liberal arts colleges. Allegheny promotes itself as a place that encourages unusual combinations of skills and interests, like a religion major who might also want to do research in molecular biology. Applications increased to 3,540 for this academic year from 2,439 in 2003. </p>

<p>Allegheny plans to reduce the amount of merit aid it offers, said Dr. Cook, the college president. Some other colleges are also beginning to rethink the amount of merit scholarships they offer.</p>

<p>"It is a huge financial commitment," Ms. Bartol of Juniata College said. "It's one we are attempting to address."
While the idea of diminishing or even eliminating merit aid has some appeal for college presidents struggling with the bottom line, very few would be willing to take the competitive risks involved in doing so on their own. "It would reduce your ability to recruit and shape the class," Dr. Cook said.</p>

<p>Mr. Lawlor, the consultant in Minneapolis, described merit aid as "a temporary Band-Aid right now."
"We have to find bigger and better solutions for the future," he said.
The ability of colleges to act collectively to curb what many officials describe as an arms race in merit aid is limited, too, by federal antitrust laws. If colleges were to decide in unison to reduce or do away with merit aid, their action could be viewed as restraining competition.</p>

<p>Students are less ambivalent about merit assistance, of course. Of about 20 Allegheny students interviewed as they prepared for finals in mid-December, all but one or two said they had been given a merit scholarship and that it had been a factor in their decision to enroll at the college.</p>

<p>Stephen Quinn said he had chosen Allegheny over two other liberal arts colleges because it gave him the most money, $9,000 a year.</p>

<p>Joe Schaefer's choice came down to Allegheny or Penn State. He said he selected Allegheny because it offered him the chance to play football and granted him $10,000 a year in merit aid.</p>

<p>I wish Smith had more merit aid. I also wish pigs could fly. We've target our [<em>extremely</em> modest] donation to the Smith Parent & Alumnae fund towards undergrad scholarships.</p>

<p>I'm kind of surprised that Smith doesn't have much merit aid; what with close to a billion dollar endowmwnt. Shouldn't be hard.</p>

<p>BJM, I think the answer is that Smith hasn't <em>had</em> to give much aid, given their applications pool. They "buy" a few top students and otherwise they've been good. I think they're a great "admissions bargain" in that it's an Ivy or just sub-Ivy or even in-some-ways-better-than-Ivy education with much higher odds of admissions. [The running tally I keep in my mind is D at Smith vs. what could have been at Yale...Smith is winning. Probably the best Ivy "comp" is Brown.]</p>

<p>{I think they're a great "admissions bargain" in that it's an Ivy or just sub-Ivy or even in-some-ways-better-than-Ivy}</p>

<p>I totally agree. My intention of the post was more for informative purposes than anything else. I figured it was a slow newsday, unless you were caught in the fires in Oklahoma or the blizzard in Lk Tahoe, so it would make fun reading for those who didn’t have bloodshot eyes. </p>

<p>BJM8, as hard as it is to comprehend, if Smith gave more merit aid their ranking would go down. But I would like the college to give more <em>grants</em> in lieu of loans to people like you (if you're asking for aid) TD, mini (skip mini, he has the Zollman) in order to possibly swing a few students toward Smith over Amherst, Yale etc.
I have absolutely no problem with bribery. It’s the American way</p>

<p>Well, the Zollman's are desgined to lure students from the Ivies and the STRIDEs could be viewed as anti-Amherst/Williams/Middlebury/Wellesley lures.</p>

<p>I'm in that wonderful wretched position of paying more than I'd like, not <em>quite</em> as much as I feared.</p>

<p><quote>BJM, I think the answer is that Smith hasn't <em>had</em> to give much aid, given their applications pool.</quote></p>

<p>Nonsense. </p>

<p>With info about application pool from here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/profiles/generalinfo.asp?listing=1023999&LTID=1%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/profiles/generalinfo.asp?listing=1023999&LTID=1&lt;/a>
<a href="http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/a/smith.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://collegeapps.about.com/od/collegeprofiles/a/smith.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It seems that Smith's applications pool is not <em>remarkably</em> different from that of Denison and Ohio Wesleyan. Forget about rankings...merit aid is esentially "price discounting" from Econ101, which has to do with marginal willingness to pay along a demand curve of individual consumers (ie potential students).</p>

<p>The point is that Smith doesn't have to do much discounting to get who they want.</p>

<p><quote>The point is that Smith doesn't have to do much discounting to get who they want.</quote></p>

<p><a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=1376&profileId=2%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=1376&profileId=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>For Smith College from the CollegeBoard site:</p>

<p>Avg. fin aid package is 26,832
This means that the discount rate is 60% (26,832/44704). </p>

<p>This rate for the other schools mentioned in the article is:</p>

<p>Allegheny: 59%
Ohio Wesleyan: 62%
Denison:62%</p>

<p>So, not much of a difference. </p>

<p>What I thought was a lot more interesting was that when viewing the site, I noticed that students who viewed these schools above also viewed large highly competitive universities like BU, NYU, CWRU, Brown, Cornell. So, this is somewhat consistent with what the article seemed to imply for a lot of applicants: the mechanics of a decision between going to a large very good Uni with with no aid vs LAC with merit aid.</p>

<p>{At Denison University in Granville, Ohio, 95 percent of incoming freshmen also have scholarships;}</p>

<p>I believe the point was, Smith doesn't need to offer vast amounts, both in numbers of students offered or amount of <em>merit</em> dollars-- to attract superior students. The quality of the education and reputation of the college outweighs the lack of <em>merit</em> aid allocations.
It could be argued, if Smith gave away as much <em>merit</em> i.e. free money as Denison, Smith’s stats could very well rival Yale’s . Smith also has a 1,350,000 (billion $) endowment for future grow and academic investments compared to Denison’s 430 mm</p>

<p>You're confusing discount rate with actual debt at graduation. Big diff.</p>

<p>RLT, I realize your point, but is Smith offered more merit dollars, couldn't they move up on the rankings scale? I mean, it appears that is where they fall short. Perhaps they could steal away more students from Amherst, Yale, etc. by offering more Zollman's or just more in the way of merit aid. I know the rankings aren't everything, but you can't tell me that they are not cognizant of them, or even that they do not wish to move up the rankings, since almost every serious college entering senior looks at them with their parents.</p>

<p>Following Jill Ker Conway's becoming Pres. of Smith in 1975, the college underwent a fairly radical shift in admissions, making a substantial shift to emphasize economic diversity in admissions. They began sending the admissions folks on a regular basis to places where most of their "competitors" don't venture, and, over time, suping up emphasis on mentoring, advising, etc. to a level which (in my judgment) is virtually unmatched elsewhere (not even close at my alma mater Williams.) They began reserving 10% of the class for women over the age of 26 just coming back to school, using the SAT as simply a floor to demonstrate that the students could do the work, and also knowing that many would require huge amounts of financial aid.</p>

<p>In 1999, Pres. Simmons commissioned a study by a joint committee of the faculty, admissions office, and institutional research to ask two questions: 1) does the use of SATs in admission mitigate against Smith's commitment to economic diversity, and 2) is there a correlation between SAT scores and student performance once they get to Smith. The answer to the first was a clear yes, to the second no. As a result, orders came down from the Pres' office to heavily de-emphasize SATs in admissions.</p>

<p>Smith does have some merit aid, but most of it is not in dollars. Five Zollmans a year (half tuition - and since for some of the winners, like my d., they would have received need-based aid anyway, it really doesn't amount to much.) A few engineering scholarships. A couple for community college transfers, and Springfield area students. The main "merit" area is not in money - the STRIDEs. Their attraction lies in offering what no liberal arts or Ivy college that I know of offers - guaranteed undergraduate research opportunities in the first two years. (The amount of merit money represented by the STRIDE - $2,500/year - is well within the limits of the differences in costs between comparable colleges, so it really doesn't amount to much, especially as more than 60% of students received need-based aid, so they would have received similar amounts anyway.) They could offer more merit money - instead, they put it in on-campus educational opportunities.</p>

<p>The result? 28% of the student body is on Pell Grants - meaning that they get very close to full rides ($35-40k). More than 60% of the student body receives financial aid. To give you an idea of how that shapes up: at Amherst, 44% receive financial aid, 15% on Pell Grants; at Williams, 48% receive aid, 9% on Pell Grants; at Swarthmore, 49% receive aid, 12% are on Pell Grants. Maybe it would be possible for them to do things differently, but I don't see any indication that they would want to. And I would think worth while to look at the results: why is the school "ranked 19th" scoring more 50% more Fulbrights (and 70% more research Fulbrights) for women, than those at Amherst, Williams, and Swarthmore combined? It's obviously not because of the "ranking" of the student body.</p>

<p>I think they know when they've got a good thing going.</p>

<p>Mini, do you by any chance have the stats for Wellesley, Barnard, and Bryn Mawr?</p>

<p>These are two years old, as I haven't found a prime new source for Pell #s except those put out by the colleges themselves:</p>

<p>Barnard - 52% receive need-based aid; 18% Pell Grants
Wellesley - 57% receive need-based aid - 16% Pell
Bryn Mawr - 51% received need-based aid - 15% Pell</p>

<p>{I know the rankings aren't everything, but you can't tell me that they are not cognizant of them, or even that they do not wish to move up the rankings, since almost every serious college entering senior looks at them with their parents.}</p>

<p>You bet Smith is cognizant of the ratings. The same day the ratings were published and Smith dropped 5 spots an alumna or student left a message on this board asking “is this the price we’re paying for diversity?” A couple of weeks later I was visiting with a board member and she very strongly voiced her displeasure with the US News results and her opinion as to why Smith was having difficulty attracting and enrolling certain students. </p>

<p>And negative press, such as the article in the Washington Post, by Suzanne Fields, the conservative columnist, in which Smith is mentioned regarding some of the issues already discussed here, doesn’t help with the recruitment of the kind of students than can help with the rankings. Smith is in good company however. She harasses NYU and UPenn in the same article. I have a copy but will not post it here. For the record, I don’t read the WP. The reason I have the article is because it was a topic of discussion on the Smith campus and it was forwarded to me.</p>

<p>Some of the students devised a way to increase alumnae giving--part of the ranking formula. Ask alumnae to give only a 1.00. which every grad can afford, to up the alumnae giving percentage. I thought that was a somewhat humorous, if not creative, idea coming from 17-21 year olds. It’s apparent the current students care about the ranking.
Bjm8, you’re correct regarding high school seniors using the ranking. Unfortunately, the ranking’s become a self- fulfilling prophecy. Parents are equally guilty of using the ratings as “bragging rights” when discussing which college their cherished offspring is attending.
Asians, Indians etc. (in our high school anyway) in particular use the rankings and name recognition when they, in most cases, <em>tell</em> their kids where they can apply. It’s not a great deal different with the Caucasian parents. They’re just more subtle about directing their kids toward certain colleges.
I admit to being guilty of doing so myself. I did, after all, gently persuade, (read force) my daughter to visit Smith even though she was dead set against attending.</p>

<p>Would I like to see Smith move up in the rankings? Sure. They matter, but how much I’m not sure.
I compare the rankings to guys and their cars. I (my wife actually, but I swip it when I can) drives an Acura TL, a car in the BMW 3 series class. It’s faster 0-60 than the BMW or any other car in the class. Does that make it a better car? Of course not but it gives me bragging rights for having the fasted car in the class. But when you compare handling, the BMW will run circles around the TL. It all boils down to what’s important to the driver. Same with colleges. </p>

<p>The rankings also fail to include very important issues such as advising.
I called an admission officer at one of the top med schools to ask a simple question. What should have been a one minute conversation turned into a lengthy discourse about Smith, Margaret Anderson and how highly this particular admission officer thought of Smith, Prof Anderson and her pre-med advising. When I queried about other colleges (top LACs) and their advising staff, I assumed she would state they were all excellent. To my surprise, this wasn’t the case. In her opinion, some were terrible to the point of being almost useless.</p>

<p>The strong advising program at Smith came up numerous times during our visits. Many Smithies who we talked to had wonderful things to say about their profs and in particular, the advising system. Smith has one of the best admission acceptances to med schools, etc. compared to other LAC's; primarily, I believe, due to the fact that advising is excellent. This is very necessary, may I add, when you have a school with no core requirements except an intensive writing course. </p>

<p>I'm glad to read that Smith Admission people are upset at the rankings. They must be cognizant of the issues surrounding the dropoff. I keep reading of the transgender issues, and how Smith is embracing the lesbian community more then it ever has. They need to be very careful, or they will scare off potential great students and turn the school into something they might be sorry about. I am not a homophobe, and have nothing against anyone's gender/sex preferences; however, Smith is an LAC with an elite history of being a great educational power for women, and is known in educational circles as "the other Ivy" just as Amherst is. Would be a shame to lose that because of some poor choices by administrators.</p>

<p>{They need to be very careful, or they will scare off potential great students}</p>

<p>They already are. My daughter and I are trying to decide how to broach the subject when we speak to the jr. class at her previous high school for a Smith recruiting meeting next week</p>

<p>{ and turn the school into something they might be sorry about. I am not a homophobe, and have nothing against anyone's gender/sex preferences; however, Smith is an LAC with an elite history of being a great educational power for women}</p>

<p>Since you brought it up, I’ll post the article. A couple of your points are addressed. Williams is mentioned too, which is another reason I hesitated to post this as I intend no disrespect for Mini's alma mater. </p>

<p>By Suzanne Fields
October 20, 2005</p>

<p>A magazine cover story about postmodern life on the American college campus depicts three monkeys in cap and gown, covering their ears, eyes and mouth, a parody of the hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil caricature. But students at many colleges actually get quite the opposite. They're required to hear, see, speak and study all about evil, as long as it's the evil oppression of everybody in American society.
Parents, inoculate yourselves. It may be too late for your children.
There's an emphasis on multicultural studies and few campuses have escaped the disease, and it's not yet Halloween. The title of a course taught to undergraduates in American studies at New York University, for example, is called "Intersections: Gender Race and Sexuality in U.S. History and Politics." You might think this is a strange way to get at American history. The class spends a week analyzing the murder of Teena Brandon (aka Brandon Teena), a young woman who pretended to be a man, and includes the screening of the movie, "Boys Don't Cry," the narrative version.
The following week students study the life and murder of Tupac Shakur, the "gangsta" rapper whose rough and raw lyrics glorified drugs, abusing women and the violence that finally took his life. There's "Queer Lives and Culture," "Global Divas: Filipino Gay Men in the Diaspora," and a discussion of the relationship of gender, race and war in Haiti through the lens of "Military Occupation and the Culture of U.S. Imperialism." One teaching assistant of this course describes herself as an "anti-racist queer activist feminist." That covers just about everything, except the tuition for a year at NYU, which parents shell out $40,000.
Smith College, the elite school that once was only for women, and still is, sort of, has a different problem. About two dozen women who arrived as female have become male, more or less. The Financial Times reports that some of the more traditional "girls in pearls" on campus think the new "guys" should transfer to a co-ed college. Smith has long been "gay friendly," but now that girls have become "boys" Smithies joke that the school motto is "Queer in a year or your money back." It's not a joke, and it costs $37,000 a year.
Somewhere Sophia Smith is spinning. The Massachusetts woman who left her fortune to create a college where women "could develop as fully as may be the powers of womanhood" did not have a third sex in mind. Once known for their dedication to academic rigor, Smith students voted to change the school constitution to purge all "gender-specific" language. No "she" and no "her," but an all-purpose "student." The Rev. L. Clark Seelye, the first president of Smith College, said that the study of English should produce clarity of thought and expression. Other seats of higher learning have gone farther, creating synthetic pronouns, using "hir" for "her" or "his," and "ze" for "she" and "he". You thought "herstory" for "history" was a joke.
Smith is not alone in disfiguring what passes for education. A popular introductory freshman course at the University of Pennsylvania deconstructs Herman Melville and other dead white males (if not white whales), seeking hidden meanings of homosexuality, pederasty and incest. Majors in the humanities are down, and why not? In "Binge: What Your College Student Won't Tell you," author Barrett Seaman finds lots of colleges that promote gay-ity. Vassar College has a "Homo Hop" and the Queer Student Union at Williams College holds a "Queer Bash" with gay pornography, widely attended by straight students. Adrienne Rich, a lesbian poet, encourages young women to experiment with homosexuality and bisexuality.
An authentic liberal education promotes both character and understanding with a rigorous study of what Matthew Arnold called "the best that is known and thought in the world." When dead white males like Thomas Jefferson and John Milton are replaced, or must compete with popular studies about transgendered males and newly-minted homosexual heroes in classic novels, students are deprived of any trace of disciplined thought. They're doubly vulnerable when at the same time they're encouraged to indulge in undisciplined social experimentation without anchors of moral reference.
"Gender Studies, Ethnic Studies, Afro-American Studies, Women's Studies, Gay, Lesbian and Transgender Studies," writes Roger Kimball, author of "Tenured Radicals," in New Criterion magazine, "are not the names of academic disciplines but political grievances... Parents are alarmed, rightly so, at the spectacle of their children going off to college one year and coming back the next having jettisoned every moral, religious, social and political scruple they have been brought up to believe." These studies inhibit debate, corrupt young minds and infect learning with a virus for which, like bird flu, there is not yet an antidote.</p>

<p>Yeeouchhh!!!! Quite an article! I was not aware that only about two dozen students caused all this furor. Why did the student union go along with this? Interesting to note that this does not seem to be totally acceptable by all Smithies. The "girls in pearls" deciding that these "girls" should attend a co-ed college, is interesting to say the least. I wonder how the president of Smith feels about this, and how older alumnae are reacting to the news. Some must be turning in their graves.</p>

<p>"When dead white males like Thomas Jefferson and John Milton are replaced"</p>

<p>So my old friend and college classmate Eric Reeves teaches Milton at Smith, and has for the better part of 30 years. He also has leukemia (terminal), but has well outlived the doctors' prognosis. So during those six years battling the disease, and still teaching half-time, he has become the nation's leading expert on Darfur. You virtually can't read an article in the Washington Post or the NY Time without there being a quote from Reeves, or background provided by him.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.sudanreeves.org/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.sudanreeves.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>If these are popular studies worth railing against because their "children" "have jettisoned every moral, religious, social and political scruple they have been brought up to believe", I'd like to see more of 'em. </p>

<p>My own opinion (having spent time around Smith 35 years ago, and my wife came out of Camp Hamp) is that it is a much better school than it was then. Horizons for women are better; advising is better; mentoring is better; professors are better; curriculum is better.</p>

<p>As for complaints about lesbianism, these go back to the 1930s. If you want the President's comments about same (which are consistent with all the Prez's of Smith since Conway became the first female Pres.) you can actually find them on-line at "shaping the future" dialogues on the Smith site. </p>

<p>You'll find similar at Yale, with the largest, most famous, and best-funded Gay Studies program in the country. Yes, there are alumni there who growl, too (and female students complaining they can't find any straight men.) It's also a much, much better school than it was 35 years ago.</p>