International Relations??

vc08 · April 2, 2008, 5:48pm

Hi All~

As I weigh my options, I'm considering Michigan, along with a few other schools. One of the things I've noticed though, is that Michigan does not offer IR as a major. This is okay, as I'm not sure I'd major in it anyway, but I'm considering it.

So my question is, does Michigan have a similar major? Also, if one was considering applying for the Ford school of Public Policy, and eventually law school, what would be some good things to major in?

Thanks, and sorry if this is kinda broad, just tryin to get some ideas....thanks!

Alexandre · April 3, 2008, 12:07am

VC, Michigan has a top ranked Political Science Department and a top ranked Economics department. Those are probably the two most common majors for people interested in Public Affairs or Law.

vc08 · April 3, 2008, 1:07am

sweet, thanks alexandre!

chanpychris · April 3, 2008, 9:52am

Umich seems to be top in so many sectors.. if it aint all rounded, then i dunno what is..

Alexandre · April 4, 2008, 1:40am

Chanpycrhis, Michigan is very well rounded. Here are some of the latest rankings in the Social Sciences and Humanties. Keep in mind those are graduate rankings, but unless a university has a serious lack of resources and/or talent, there is virtually no difference between undergraduate and graduate programs. All students share the same faculty, facilities and research opportunities:

ECONOMICS
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 5.0 
1 University of Chicago 5.0 
3 Harvard University 4.9 
3 Princeton University 4.9 
3 Stanford University 4.9 
3 University of California-Berkeley 4.9 
7 Yale University 4.8 
8 Northwestern University 4.6 
9 University of Pennsylvania 4.5 
10 University of California-San Diego 4.3 
11 Columbia University 4.2 
11 University of California-Los Angeles 4.2 
11 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.2 
11 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.2 
15 New York University 4.1 
15 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities 4.1

ENGLISH:
1 Harvard University 4.9 
1 University of California-Berkeley 4.9 
1 Yale University 4.9 
4 Princeton University 4.8 
4 Stanford University 4.8 
6 Cornell University 4.7 
6 University of Chicago 4.7 
8 Columbia University 4.6 
8 Johns Hopkins University 4.6 
10 University of California-Los Angeles 4.5 
10 University of Pennsylvania 4.5 
12 Duke University 4.4 
12 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.4 
12 University of Virginia 4.4 
15 Brown University 4.3

HISTORY
1 Yale University 4.9 
2 Princeton University 4.8 
2 University of California-Berkeley 4.8 
4 Harvard University 4.7 
4 Stanford University 4.7 
4 University of Chicago 4.7 
7 Columbia University 4.6 
7 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.6 
9 Johns Hopkins University 4.5 
9 University of California-Los Angeles 4.5 
11 Cornell University 4.4 
11 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.4 
13 University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 4.3 
13 University of Pennsylvania 4.3 
15 Brown University 4.1 
15 Duke University 4.1

POLITICAL SCIENCE:
1 Harvard University 5.0 
2 Stanford University 4.9 
3 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.8 
4 Princeton University 4.7 
5 University of California-Berkeley 4.6 
5 Yale University 4.6 
7 University of California-San Diego 4.4 
8 Duke University 4.3 
8 University of Chicago 4.3 
10 Columbia University 4.2 
10 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.2 
10 University of California-Los Angeles 4.2 
13 Ohio State University 4.0 
13 University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 4.0 
13 University of Rochester 4.0

PSYCHOLOGY:
1 Stanford University 4.8 
2 University of California-Berkeley 4.6 
2 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.6 
4 Yale University 4.5 
5 Harvard University 4.4 
5 Princeton University 4.4 
5 University of California-Los Angeles 4.4 
5 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 4.4 
9 Carnegie Mellon University 4.2
9 Harvard University 4.2 
9 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.2 
12 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.1 
12 Stanford University 4.1 
12 University of Minnesota-Twin Cities 4.1 
12 University of Texas-Austin 4.1

SOCIOLOGY:
1 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.9 
2 University of California-Berkeley 4.8 
3 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.7 
4 University of Chicago 4.6 
4 University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 4.6 
6 Princeton University 4.5 
6 Stanford University 4.5 
8 Harvard University 4.4 
8 University of California-Los Angeles 4.4 
10 University of Pennsylvania 4.2 
11 Columbia University 4.1 
11 Indiana University-Bloomington 4.1 
11 Northwestern University 4.1 
14 Cornell University 3.9 
14 Duke University 3.9 
14 University of Texas-Austin 3.9

OVERALL AVERAGE IN THE HUMANITIES AND SOCIAL SCIENCES:
1. Stanford University 4.77
1. University of California-Berkeley 4.77
3. Harvard University 4.72
4. Princeton University 4.68
5. Yale University 4.55
5. University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.55
5. University of Chicago 4.55
8. University of California-Los Angeles 4.37
9. Columbia University 4.28
10. University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.28
11. Cornell University 4.13
12. University of Pennsylvania 4.12
13. Northwestern University 4.03

And although there aren't USNWR rankings for the Antropology, Classics, Foreign Languages, International Studies, Linguistics and Philisophy, Michigan is ranked in or around the top 5 in all of those fields.

Michigan is also very strong in the Sciences.

BIOLOGICAL SCIENCES
1 Stanford University 4.9 
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.8 
2 University of California-Berkeley 4.8 
4 California Institute of Technology 4.7 
4 Harvard University 4.7 
6 Johns Hopkins University 4.6 
7 Washington University-St. Louis 4.5 
7 Yale University 4.5 
9 Cornell University 4.4 
9 Duke University 4.4 
9 Princeton University 4.4 
12 Columbia University 4.3 
12 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.3 
12 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.3
15 University of California-San Diego 4.2 
15 University of Chicago 4.2 
15 University of Washington 4.2

CHEMISTRY
1 California Institute of Technology 4.9 
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.9 
1 Stanford University 4.9 
1 University of California-Berkeley 4.9 
5 Harvard University 4.8 
6 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 4.5 
6 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.5 
8 Cornell University 4.4 
8 Northwestern University 4.4 
10 Columbia University 4.3 
11 University of California-Los Angeles 4.2 
11 University of Chicago 4.2 
11 University of Texas--Austin 4.2 
14 Yale University 4.1 
15 Pennsylvania State University-University Park 4.0 
15 Princeton University 4.0 
15 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.0 
15 University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 4.0

COMPUTER SCIENCE
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 5.0 
1 Stanford University 5.0 
1 University of California--Berkeley 5.0 
4 Carnegie Mellon University 4.9
5 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 4.6 
6 Cornell University 4.5 
6 Princeton University 4.5 
6 University of Washington 4.5 
9 Georgia Institute of Technology 4.3 
9 University of Texas-Austin 4.3 
11 California Institute of Technology 4.2 
11 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.2 
13 University of California-Los Angeles 4.0 
13 University of Maryland-College Park 4.0 
13 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.0 
16 Columbia University 3.9 
16 Harvard University 3.9 
16 University of California-San Diego 3.9

GEOLOGY/EARTH SCIENCES
1 California Institute of Technology 4.9 
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.8 
2 Stanford University 4.8 
4 University of California-Berkeley 4.6 
5 Columbia University 4.4 
5 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.4 
7 Pennsylvania State University-University Park 4.3 
8 University of Arizona 4.2 
9 Harvard University 4.1 
9 University of Texas-Austin 4.1 
11 Princeton University 4.0 
11 University of California-Los Angeles 4.0 
11 University of Washington 4.0 
11 Yale University 4.0 
15 Cornell University 3.9 
15 University of California-San Diego 3.9 
15 University of Chicago 3.9 
15 University of Wisconsin-Madison 3.9

MATHEMATICS
1 Princeton University 5.0 
2 Harvard University 4.9 
2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.9 
2 Stanford University 4.9 
2 University of California-Berkeley 4.9 
6 University of Chicago 4.8 
7 California Institute of Technology 4.6 
7 Yale University 4.6 
9 Columbia University 4.5 
9 New York University 4.5 
9 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.5 
12 University of California-Los Angeles 4.4 
13 Cornell University 4.3 
14 Brown University 4.2 
14 University of Texas-Austin 4.2 
14 University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.2

PHYSICS
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 5.0 
1 Stanford University 5.0 
3 California Institute of Technology 4.9 
3 Harvard University 4.9 
3 Princeton University 4.9 
3 University of California-Berkeley 4.9 
7 Cornell University 4.7 
8 University of Chicago 4.6 
8 University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 4.6 
10 University of California-Santa Barbara 4.5 
11 Columbia University 4.3 
11 Yale University 4.3 
13 University of Maryland-College Park 4.2 
13 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.2 
13 University of Pennsylvania 4.2

OVERALL AVERAGE IN THE SCIENCES:
1. Stanford University 4.92
2. Massachusetts Institute of Technology 4.90
3. University of California-Berkeley 4.85
4. California Institute of Technology 4.70
5. Harvard University 4.55
6. Princeton University 4.47
7. Cornell University 4.37
8. University of Chicago 4.23
8. University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 4.23
10. University of Wisconsin-Madison 4.20
10. Yale University 4.20
12. University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign 4.13

Michigan also has very strong professional programs. Its college of Engineering is always ranked among the top 10 nationally, both at the undergraduate and graduate levels. Michigan's Ross business school is ranked among the top 3 or 4 undergraduate Business programs in the country. Michigan also has a very highly regarded Law school.

LAW RANKINGS
1 Yale University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.8 
2 Harvard University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.8 
2 Stanford University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.8 
4 Columbia University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.7 
5 New York University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.5
6 University of California-Berkeley, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.5
7 University of Chicago, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.6 
7 University of Pennsylvania, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.4 
9 Northwestern University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.3 
9 University of Michigan-Ann Arbor, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.6
9 University of Virginia, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.6 
12 Cornell University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.4 
12 Duke University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.4 
14 Georgetown University, Assessment score by lawyers/judges 4.4

As their assessment scores suggest, there is virtually no difference in prestige and professional placement between those 14 Law programs. In fact, they are referred to as the N (national) 14. Michigan places between 100 and 150 students into those N14 Law schools on an annual basis. Last year, Michigan placed 110 students into those elite Law Schools:

University of Michigan Law School: 91 admitted, 46 enrolled
Harvard University Law School: 17 admitted, 14 enrolled
Georgetown University Law School: 39 admitted, 13 enrolled
Northwestern University Law School: 23 admitted, 7 enrolled
Columbia University Law School: 22 admitted, 6 enrolled
New York University Law School: 25 admitted, 5 enrolled
University of California-Berkeley (Boalt Hall): 12 admitted, 4 enrolled
University of Virginia: 25 admitted, 4 enrolled
Cornell University: 33 admitted, 3 enrolled
University of Chicago: 16 admitted, 3 enrolled
University of Pennsylvania: 13 admitted, 2 enrolled
Yale University: 3 admitted, 2 enrolled
Stanford University: 6 admitted, 1 enrolled
Duke University: 28 admitted, none (0) enrolled

Michigan also places a lot of its students into Law schools ranked between #15 and #25:

Fordham University Law School: 41 admitted, 11 enrolled
George Washington University Law School: 55 admitted, 11 enrolled
Boston University Law School: 52 admitted, 9 enrolled
Emory University Law School: 27 admitted, 7 enrolled
University of California-Los Angeles Law School: 19 admitted, 5 enrolled
University of Iowa Law School: 17 admitted, 5 enrolled
University of Minnesota Law School: 10 admitted, 4 enrolled
University of Notre Dame Law School: 20 admitted, 4 enrolled
University of Texas-Austin Law School: 20 admitted, 4 enrolled
Washington University-St Louis: 16 admitted, 4 enrolled
Boston College Law School: 27 admitted, 3 enrolled
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign Law School: 30 admitted, 3 enrolled
Vanderbilt University Law School: 10 admitted, 2 enrolled
University of Southern California Law School: 24 admitted, 1 enrolled
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill Law School: 6 admitted, none (0) enrolled
University of Washington Law School: 7 admitted, none (0) enrolled

Only a handful of universities enjoy such placement success.

Of course, Michigan also has a top ranked Medical School (between #7 and #11) and a top ranked Hospital (also ranked between #7 and #12 among all US Hospitals).

Michigan also has top ranked programs in Architecture, Art, Dentistry, Music, Nursing, Pharmacy, Public Affairs, Public Health and Social Work.

And Michigan's resources are impressive. From its $7.2 billion endowment (tied with Columbia as the sixth wealthiest university in the US) to its 8 million-title library (7th largest university library in the World) to its $800 million research spending (2nd or 3rd highest in the nation), Michigan just seems to pop out everywhere!

Finally, Michigan's campus is very lively and always engaged in intellectual, cultural, artistic and athletic events of the highest calibre. Plus Ann Arbor is quite possibly the quaintest and hippest college town there is.

In short, Michigan has very few weaknesses.

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