<p>My cousin (junior) is interested in applying early decision for ILR program next year.
He would like some honest responses on what his chances are.
He'll be applying from an international school in Europe, and has the following stats
SAT I - 1280
SAT II - Writing 650, Math IIC 700, Chemistry 710
ACT - 29</p>
<p>GPA - about a 3.7 UW
AP classes - Econ, Psych., Chem (11th grade). Calc (AB), PhysicsB, Comp Science, US History (12th grade).</p>
<p>Good extra-curricular involvement. Leadership positions held (student council), environmental protection organizations, as well as 2-3 years of sports.</p>
<p>The international status is a big help. Sorry to break it to you, but those really aren't particularly impressive ECs- They're average, nothing that they'll say "well this makes up for his sub-standard ________" over. I'd say everything looks good except the SAT I could use a little work. GPA is fine</p>
<p>His chances don't look that great. Everything looks to be slightly below average for an ILR student with no hook (no URM status, legacy, ir atheltic). He really should focus his attention on raising that SAT I score; going up a little will help him a lot.</p>
<p>Hello,
I am an international student and have been admitted Early Decision to Cornell's ILR (class of 2009).</p>
<p>I am from South Korea and have lived in CA for about 2 1/2 yrs.
I have the following stats:
SAT I - 1320 (V570, M750)
SAT II - Writing 640, Math IIC 800, World History 690
ACT - 31</p>
<p>GPA - about a 3.9 UW, 4.3 W
AP classes -
Biology (10th grade).
Calculus AB, Chemistry, US History, Economics (macro) (11th grade).
Calculus BC, Physics B, Psychology, Economics (micro) (12th grade).</p>
<p>My extra-curricular involvement wasn't that great. I was a co-editor of School Literary Magazine, a vice-president of Business Club, a treasurer of Chorale, and a treasurer/secretary/publicity for Chemistry Club. I didn't play any sports. I did my community service at a local library and a Korean American church. I also did about 500 hours of tutoring. </p>
<p>So, I think he does have a shot. He's just a junior. So, he will be able to score higher next time. Hopefully~ I think what is important is his interest in ILR. If he can write killer essays on 'why ILR' question, ILR would not deny him. Especially, because ILR has a very small number of international students applying to it, he has a better chance than many other applicants to ILR do. Additionally, applying Early Decision would be very advantageous. (This year Cornell accepted about 1000 people from about 2500 applicants, making the ED admit rate 42% or so) Good Luck!</p>
<p>As an ILR alum, I can tell you that your cousin has a chance, but not a great one. He needs to write great essays and he needs to articulate what he wants to get out of the program. Unile the Arts and Sciences, the ILR school is very pre-professional (close to 100% either go on to work or go to Law School). His SAT could use a boost. The mean at the ILR school hovers around 1400.</p>
<p>I think if he were in instate applicant he would have little chance. However, it must be realized that he is an international applying early decision.... do you think this will be a huge factor in a positive outcome to the application? </p>
<p>the reason why i'm asking is the kid's guidance counsellor say's he's a shoe in for the ilr program as very few internationals apply each year, and the vast majority of applicants are from the state of new york. it's also regarded as a program declining in popularity (in my opinion) as labor unions and the union movement in america is fast becoming obsolete. the HR field is also not a highly ambitous one to get into...however, this individual has a great interest in the subjects offered in the program.</p>
<p>First of all, there is no such thing as a "shoe-in" at Cornell. Secondly, the field of Labor Relations may not be as widespread in the future, but you are always going to need people capable of negotiating and dealing with Labor. Finally, HR is an ambitious field...if that's what you like. The VP of HR at most companies is one of the 10 highest paid executives and usually reports directly to the CEO. </p>
<p>Check out how some of those major companies are listing their VP of HR among the top 5 officers of the entire company:</p>
<p>Cornell is highly regarded as one of the top 3 hunting grounds for HR talent. Undegrads have starting salaries that hover in the $40,000-$55,000 range and graduate students start at $55,000-$85,000. So it is obviously a good program if you wish to work upon graduation. Also, many ILR students go to top Law schools. </p>
<p>In short, your cousin is not a shoe-in at Cornell (few people are) and the field of HR isn't going anywhere anytime soon. In fact, it is seen as a strategically vital component of any modern business.</p>
<p>Certainly, I may have been a bit niave of calling HR an obsolete field, it is definately a key component of any modern business. I personally feel a general business/management qualification will enable graduates to work in other areas of an organization in addition to possible HR concetration (through appropriate course selection). Going a bit off topic here...as the post was designed for assessing the chances of this applicant.</p>
<p>Do you think the earlier information i posted about him being an intl. and an early applicant will profoundly affect his application?</p>
<p>You are correct in your belief that HR is more limited than say Finance or Economics. But it is still a lucrative and relatively stable field.</p>
<p>Whether or not being an international applicant will impact your cousin's chances or not...hard to say. I knew a girl from Kazakhstan who was in the ILR program at Cornell (I was her TA), and other than her top model looks, there was nothing remarkable about her. But how many women from Kazakhstan apply to Cornell's ILR program annually? She was probably the first and last to do so! LOL </p>
<p>So it really depends on several valiables. But in the case of Cornell, being an international usually neither helps nor hurts.</p>