International Student: Helps or hurts at Stanford?

<p>Hey I live in Maryland but I will be considered an international application because I have a G4 visa which means I live here but am not a permanent resident nor a citizen. At Stanford specifically, does it hurt or help getting in if you can pay for the education and are considered an international?</p>

<p>Usually help, but since you are Indian, and you probably checked Asian on the Ethnicity question, it may hurt more than help you since a lot of Asians apply to Stanford.</p>

<p>Well I didn't answer the ethnicity question b/c thats just for perm residents/citizens but yea they do know I am from India. Anyone else know about internationals at Stanford?</p>

<p>I think it helps. I've heard that there is a shortage of Int'l students... but that could be just Chinese Community Propoganda...</p>

<p>btw: I applied as int'l too. I have a E2 Resident Visa. </p>

<p>but G4 sounds cooler...</p>

<p>So you mean that being an international is an advantage? Does Standford offer in particular full scholarships to int students? </p>

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<p>Wait, so if you're already an international student, do they still consider what race you are? (Heard stanford has an overabundance of Asians). I'm an international applicant willing to pay in full, and I'm a Canadian. But my ethnicity is asian. Would I be at a disadvantage b/c I'm asian (or does it not matter because technically I'm a "canadian" or they dont consider the race of international students?). Is there an advantage because I'm willing to pay in full?
Okay...i hope my post made sense. :S</p>

<p>If you are international and do not need fin.aid, you are not at disadvantagre. You may even have some advantage as far as diversity issue (though it's not like URM). If you are international that needs fin. aid, you are at disadvantage, though there are many who get in with fin. aid.</p>

<p>I know of no elite college where being an international increases your odds of admission. Just the opposite, in fact. International acceptance odds are usually much lower than the overall odds. There are only limited slots for internationals -- usually 5% to 8%. However, there are huge numbers of international apps.</p>

<p>No way to know what the odds are for US-based international applicants.</p>

<p>If you need fin aid and you are international, you are at a disadvantage, since Stanford is NOT need-blind for international students.</p>

<p>if you are paying, you are considered as a regular US studenta ( i know this for sure for Dartmouth, Duke & Stanford)</p>

<p>hopeman, where did you find that information? Did you email them or is it on the web somewhere? I just want to make sure you're right :D before I waste time (and money) on an application.</p>

<p>I thought I read somewhere the acceptance rate for internationals was about 7% while the acceptance rate as a whole was around 12%. Wouldn't call that "advantage"!</p>

<p>Right but the question is, if you are willing to pay IN FULL, does that 7% acceptance rate still apply to an international student.</p>

<p>Hey, I am a F-1 int. student in NJ...from South Korea..
I called (or talked to some admission officers in person) and asked many many competitive schools to ask about how they would consider me since i attend a U.S. School.</p>

<p>They told me that I would compete against the ppl from my high school and the state that I live in...not with the int. students from abroad..
However, they told me that they would take into consideration that English is not my first lang...</p>

<p>Okay.. and applying for fin. aid for schools except for (Princeton, Yale, Harvard, and Georgetown) hurts your chance..i think it's esp. true for Penn, COlumbia, and COrnell..so don't if you don't have to..</p>

<p>Arite,.thanks and good luck!!</p>