International student needs help

<p>Hi guys, </p>

<p>I'm an international student from Spain. I came to the US in 2009 as a sophomore and since then, the requirements that colleges ask for have been a little blurry for me. That is to say, I am still not sure of what colleges expect from international students. I would like to attend good business schools, going from indiana university to babson college and im also thinking on places like wharton (that would be my dream).... but my situation is quite complicated. </p>

<p>First of all, my GPA is spoiled... I came to the US as a mediocre kid that never liked to work and never did anything and by junior year, I changed completely. to make it easier, back there in Spain I was getting an average of 5/10 in my freshmen year (note that a 5 is a pass in spain and that a 10 is much more difficult to achieve there than in the us, excellent students in my school got to 8s or 9s). In my sophomore year, I worked a little more because i liked my school better and my social situation was much better so I got to an average of 80 or so (which isnt that good either) but I was still fooling around and now as a junior, Im getting averages of 90s or so, with AP courses and a much more rigorous schedule.... I have improved a lot but still have difficulties in getting to my maximum, not because I'm not capable of doing it but just because i have never been like this in all my life and I need to get used to it. Now, behind my past mediocre, lazy personality there is a strong story, a little personal but a strong story that affected my grades and my social life back there when i was living in spain and I don't know how colleges will consider my sittuation.</p>

<p>Also, when I came to the US last year, I had no idea of how the american system worked (Note that I came from an international school in spain and my english was pretty good). In spain, to get into college you need your grades and your Selectividad (basically the SAT, its more like an ACT thought). That is all. There is no need of extracurricular activities, the spanish society does not give importance to sports, no community service (there is no such thing as 'community service' in spain, everything is paid by the government), no work experience (in spain you gotta be 18 to work in most of the jobs, one cannot work in a Burger King for instance, with an age of 16). So I have very little community service, almost no work expierience, not many sports (apart from the ones i have been practicing in the us) and so on.... My extracurricullar activities have gotten a lot better this year. Last year, I did very little but now Im president of some clubs in my shcool and I have participated in many other things. The improvement in my junior year has been notable. Im still not incredible but I am getting better every day. The thing here is that my past ruins everything for me. </p>

<p>Lastly, I decided to take the ACT. First of all, my score is awful although I will hopefully improve it during summer and the rest of the junior year, but what ACT scores do colleges expect from international students? a college that wants a 33 for the ACT expects an international student to get a 33?</p>

<p>Basically, I dont know how colleges will consider my situation, what colleges expect from me, how colleges will see my GPA and other scores with a strong story behind it, how colleges will see my improvement.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>I think the best strategy is to continue to work hard in school and to ensure that your current school’s guidance counselor recommendation reflects these “change in system” issues that you describe, putting you in context. All the colleges you mention receive many applicants from Spain and are fully aware of the differences in the academic systems and cultural incentives for high school students. Your essays must speak for what you intend to achieve going forward–and your current grades must prove that your walk the talk. Good luck!</p>

<p>Indeed… That’s what I’m doing. However, I’m walking on a dark path. I know that improvement will only do good to me but I’m still unaware of how this specific situation will be considered by colleges. I guess it’s one of those special cases that could end up in an exception list… I’ll have to wait to see the outcome of my applications. Still, thank you very much for your answer, I will strongly consider your advice. But my question now is, do you think that I have a chance to be accepted in prestigious colleges such as Upenn with all this past history spoiling my present? I wouldn’t like to waste my early decision opportunity with a college that will reject me. If you want more specific information about me, about what I do, about where i came from, my extracurricular activities, my community service, my scores… I will go ahead and tell you all the information you need in a private message since the story behind everything is rather personal.</p>

<p>The person who is best placed to advise you is your school’s guidance counselor. That is his/her job. Make an appointment and get your questions answered by someone who knows you and who knows the relationship between your current school and the colleges you are considering. As for UPenn, do not forget that many, many highly qualified applicants from all over the world are turned away. That doesn’t mean don’t apply, but you must recognize that it is a long shot. If I were you I would focus on the schools that are a better match–which are also great schools! Don’t look back, look forward. Buena suerte!</p>

<p>Thank you very much. I will make my appointment and see what’s going on.</p>