<p>Hello all,</p>
<p>I'm an international Student from Thailand and I'm planning to apply to MIT next year. I wonder that " Does "math reasoning" and "SAT subject Test MAth I" are same ? Which one should I take ? </p>
<p>thxs</p>
<p>They are not the same. The subject tests are taken separately of the reasoning test.</p>
<p>The reasoning test consists of a verbal, math, and writing score. They must all be taken in one sitting.</p>
<p>The subject tests cover various academic areas from chemistry to United States history. You can sign up to one, two, or three in one sitting.</p>
<p>Thxs cgarcia…</p>
<p>So, which one should I send the score to MIT ?</p>
<p>My SAT MATH score is around 700 ( reasoning test… I’m taking the real test this Jan 23 )</p>
<p>You need to send both reasoning test scores (math, verbal, and writing) AND two SAT II subject test scores. Either Math I or Math II and one of the science tests: Chemistry, Physics, or Biology.</p>
<p>Ohhhh Thank you very much, cgarcia</p>
<p>According to,
" •Option 2: TOEFL (Test of English as a Foreign Language); and two SAT Subject Tests, one in math (level 1 or 2) and one in science (physics, chemistry, or biology e/m). This option is especially recommended for students who do not speak English at home or in school, or who have been speaking English for fewer than five years. "</p>
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<p>I can take TOEFL instead of taking reasoning test ( math, verbal, and writing ) , right ?</p>
<p>That’s what it looks like.</p>
<p>I applied as an international to MIT this year. Here is a message I got from the admission office:
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<p>I am not sure that replacing the SAT with the TOEFL is a good idea unless you can demonstrate a very strong transcript and other activities.</p>
<p>Replacing the SAT with TOEFL is perfectly acceptable for international students whose first language is not English.</p>
<p>Thxs @ flona_ and papex</p>
<p>Papex, Where do come from ?
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I wish MIT accept you, papex :)</p>
<p>I think you can still impress the admission by having a non-English first language while scoring high in SAT :P</p>
<p>The TOEFL and SAT I are completely equivalent in the eyes of the MIT admissions officers for students who do not speak English as a first language. Neither is prized over the other.</p>
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<p>Thank you, I hope too 
I am from Africa.</p>
<p>@Mollie, thank you for the comment. I always saw the SAT as a much harder test than the TOEFL so I thought not taking the SAT could put you in a disadvantage.
Anyway, I scored quite well on the SAT, so I guess it will be the rest of the application which will count. The odds are quite daunting though: around 3% !</p>
<p>I think it’s still better to submit both TOEFL and SAT [I did so]</p>
<p>^Well, it’s better in the sense that you don’t have to decide which score is the better one, and MIT will do that for you.</p>
<p>But there’s no inherent advantage in it as far as having taken both tests goes.</p>
<p>Thxs for all rep.</p>
<p>I’ll send both of them then : )</p>
<p>So, if you submit both scores, will MIT completely disregard the ‘worse’ score once it’s chosen the ‘better’ one?</p>
<p>ie. like, a 1900 SAT vs., some really really high score on the TOEFL, will they forget about the 1900?</p>
<p>Correct. In the same way, if a student takes the ACT and SAT and sends both to MIT, MIT will choose the score it considers better and will disregard the other score.</p>
<p>Wow, that is totally cool. Makes much more sense to just submit all scores now…</p>
<p>Thanks for all the info. :)</p>
<p>I heard MIT also accept IELTS. If I take SAT and IELTS send both to MIT, they will neglect the lowest score and take the highest score between two ?</p>