<p>There is a rumour that internationals have an advantage at ives and other colleges that offer need-blind admissions to internationals (harvard, princeton, williams..). I heard that all universities have an undisclosed stats already prepared! They have already planned how many students to take from what category to balance the new class in terms of diversity, sex, geographic origin, talent etc.
So, internationals get a huge advantage by this coz they contribute a hell lot to the diversity....
usually this helps those people who are from underrepresented countries and have low GPA,SATs or a thin list of ECs (thats me)</p>
<p>Anyone else heard about this...
(BTW what are my chances at a college like dartmouth or somewhere at that level if i have about only 4, but all top notch, ECs)</p>
<p>Guys, no matter whether an university is need-blind or not, internationals compete in a different pool than US nationals do. While the need-blind schools may not have quotas on how many intels they accept, with and without FA, they do have some targets to this aim. This means a disadvantage more often than not, as the competition between internationals for the limited number of spots each university has to offer is usually more intense than that between US nationals. Again, I am not saying that the need-blinds enforce quotas on the number of international acceptances - I do believe that they would revise their targets if there are more outstanding candidates, but I believe the revision is not proportional.</p>
<p>if international students were considered in the exact same pool of american applicants, and with financial status and legacy having no bearing whatsoever on your application status, let's speculate what the percentage of international students would be at hypsm.</p>
<p><em>remember: money is nothing; potential is everything</em> =) </p>
<p>i'd put it at about 30%. how aobut you guys?</p>
<p>but hey, we all know that's never gonna happen.</p>
<p>so actually, internationals have no advantage whatsoever at needblind schs, since we compete among ourselves anyway (other than those not requesting aid of course)... the fact that needblind schs have roughly the same %intels as their needaware but same-calibre counterparts pretty much proves that point.</p>
<p>i'll venture 25%. It wld probably be much higher if only test scores are taken into consideration... (esp the chinese, koreans, indians and singaporeans will juz flood HYPSM) but we all know that's not the case. extracurriculars wise, i think americans have far more outstanding resumes than most of us intels do...</p>
<p>i think it's a rumour. the only way we can be somehow at a advantage is if we come from some obscure country in Africa. some schools are increasingly trying to internationalise the campus, such as harvard, but we wont see a striking increase in admissions rates..</p>
<p>ok get this. The only advantage you can have as an international is if you live in a third world country or if you are a part of affirmative action.
Also countries like India, Japan, China and UK dont have that much acceptances into colleges with financial aid because the colleges manage to get many students from these countries within america. Ya know people who settle in the US.</p>
<p>affirmative action doesnt apply to internationals..</p>
<p>for example, a hispanic guy living in umm sweden (holding swedish residence, no greencard), will not have the AA advantage going for them.</p>
<p>I believe HYP dont really venture out for more internationals to apply,, and to really SEEK out for diversity, because heaps and heaps of people with diverse cultures apply there anyway.</p>
<p>Maybe underrepresented countries will have more of an advantage (slight though) in the lower tiers (with less international prestige) such as carneige mellon, vanderbilt, rochester, etc..</p>
<p>well only if 1) you are a british citizen so you get the super low university fees or 2) you're an international student and just so happen to be bloody rich. </p>
<p>internationals get no financial aid whatsoever from oxbridge.</p>