<p>So apparently, it will be announced @ Cupertino campus on 10/4 at 10am
and release is expected to be 14th or 15th
my question is, where do you go to buy one preferably on launch day?
Have you guys seen huge line ups even near campus? (is it better strategically to go elsewhere - like Emeryville?)</p>
<p>I am thinking about going with sprint since they seem to be the only ones offering unlimited data for now...</p>
<p>There is an Apple Store in Berkeley. [Apple</a> Retail Store - 4th Street](<a href=“http://www.apple.com/retail/4thstreet/]Apple”>http://www.apple.com/retail/4thstreet/)</p>
<p>Honestly just order it from Apple.com and save yourself the time from waiting in line all day.</p>
<p>don’t buy/bite into the evil Apple.</p>
<p>Do you seriously want an iPhone 5? You don’t even know what it looks like or whether or not it’ll be good.</p>
<p>iPhone sucks. An Android is so much more powerful and you can do so much more with it.</p>
<p>Dated but still cracks me up:
[iPhone4</a> vs HTC Evo - YouTube](<a href=“iPhone4 vs HTC Evo - YouTube”>iPhone4 vs HTC Evo - YouTube)</p>
<p>OMG IPHONE 5, EVEN MORE IPHONE THAN BEFORE =D =D =D =D!!!</p>
<p>(/Sarcasm end, least someone should take that seriously…)</p>
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<p>Yet the iPhone does everything I want it to do, and does those tasks more elegantly, reliably and efficiently than Android. So, why should I care that I can do “much more” with it? (assuming, for the sake of argument, that you can do “much more.”)</p>
<p>If playing around with the guts of your smartphone is what floats your boat, cool beans, don’t let me stop you.</p>
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That’s what I figured someone would say. Anyone who uses apple products is too dumb to realize the better options and cares too much about looks.</p>
<p>The main issues I have with iPhone are:</p>
<p>1.) Non-standard charger. Every other manufacturer is moving to MicroUSB, but Apple’s one of the only manufacturer who’s holding out. Why are you supporting a company who goes against standards?</p>
<p>2.) Very breakable; the “gorilla glass” on the front is nowhere near as durable as the real thing, and the back is made with regular glass. What this means is that your phone is dead if you drop it. There are several smartphones with real gorilla glass and a back that’s not so fragile.</p>
<p>3.) Dishonest product: they have the antenna issue and never manned up to it, only offering the hack of a protector.</p>
<p>Anyone can drop a phone or lose a charger.</p>
<p>I have an iPhone4 for the fun that is Jailbreaking but anyone who says that tasks are run reliably and efficiently is kidding themselves. Elegantly I can’t disagree with since Steve Jobs only cared about looks. iOS is becoming an archaic piece of crap. Gotta love Winterboard or Dreamboard to spruce up the UI :)</p>
<p>Never had a problem with my iPhone charger, I don’t even know what you mean by “standard” lol.</p>
<p>And I’ve dropped my phone several times (even without a case on) and it has served me very well for 2 years.</p>
<p>Two year contract’s up in a month, I see an iPhone 5 in my future.</p>
<p>I like the iPhone, but it’s just a smart phone. My girl has the HTC. She likes it, and it has a way better speakerphone than my iPhone. It runs apps way faster as well.
However, hers breaks/crashes a lot too. I have the iPhone 3G (From 2009, I never got the 3GS or the 4) and only now is it starting to run sluggish. Besides the fact that it is starting to run like a 5-year-old Dell computer, i still really liked the iPhone, even with its glaring limitations.</p>
<p>But AT&T is the most worthless network on the planet. I am thinking about getting an iPhone 4 when the 5 comes out so it will be cheaper and just switching to Verizon. AT&T has the reception of a CB radio up in the mountains during the thunderstorm.</p>
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<p>Brilliant deduction, Sherlock. Apple has become one of the most powerful and valuable companies on the planet with the best-selling smartphone and tablet computers because… customers are dumb. That’s some insightful thinking.</p>
<p>I’m guessing you’re not a business student.</p>
<p>^It’s true. The majority of people in the world are nowhere near as smart as those who use Android. Just because it sells good doesn’t mean those who buy them are smart. Thankfully I’m not a business student. You know what they say: lim (gpa->0) engineering = business.</p>
<p>You know what they say: Apple makes 66% of all the profits in the entire mobile phone industry.</p>
<p>[Apple</a> captured two thirds of available mobile phone profits in Q2 | asymco](<a href=“http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/29/apple-captured-two-thirds-of-available-mobile-phone-profits-in-q2/]Apple”>http://www.asymco.com/2011/07/29/apple-captured-two-thirds-of-available-mobile-phone-profits-in-q2/)</p>
<p>Given that making money is the point of doing business, it seems to me that Apple is very smart - and their customers are happy because they keep coming back to buy Apple products.</p>
<p>Now please provide some empirical data which supports your claim that Android users are “smarter” than iOS users. An argument unsupported by facts is entirely worthless. As an engineering student, you should be smart enough to know that.</p>
<p>So, I’m sure you have evidence for your assertion, right?</p>
<p>Anytime I go out in public I feel more and more like Luke Wilson in Idiocracy. I am aware that there are at least some semi-intelligent people in this world but the number of dumbed down individuals I meet almost every day is starting to become alarming to me. Most seem to be only concerned with money, drinking, and getting laid. I party whenever I have the free but for god sake does anybody balance out dumb fun with gaining knowledge anymore? Truth is millions of people are trendy and stupid and void of any reason of their own, thus they must have an iPhone just because the majority of their friends have one. I think being dumb has now become trendy, and more people with slightly above levels of intelligence are becoming outcasted. People call others “geek” and “nerd” like it’s a bad thing, ignoring that it is the geeks that develop the cell phones and computers you use so you can lyke totlly txt ur frendz witout eva goin outcide da houze xoxo 
I could be wrong, but these are only my personal observations. It seems like voluntary stupidity is growing like a virus and the larger it gets the more I lose hope in this generation.</p>
<p>So you don’t have any evidence at all for your assertion. Thanks for admitting that.</p>
<p>You know, it’s “geeks” who make tons of money developing the iPhone, iPad, iOS and third-party software for those platforms. You might try asking the opinion of geeks like [Marco</a> Arment](<a href=“http://www.marco.org%5DMarco”>http://www.marco.org) - developer of Instapaper.</p>
<p>You are not alone in your delusion, zygote. It seems like every rabid Android fan has this bizarre idea that everyone who buys an iPhone is “stupid” - as opposed to the multitude of reasons why many people perceive the iPhone to be a superior platform to Android. (Stability, lack of fragmentation, battery life, usability, app selection, longer useful life, customer service, design, etc., etc., etc.)</p>
<p>Marketing 101: Calling your competitor’s customers “stupid” isn’t likely to make them want to buy your product instead.</p>
<p>Evidence is in the post above. But if tl;dr: trendy=dumb, a well known fact.</p>
<p>Yeah, the blind assertion that “trendy=dumb” is “a well known fact” doesn’t actually count as evidence.</p>
<p>For an engineering student, you sure do fail at logic. I hope they don’t let you claim that “scraps+glue=lumber” so you can build a 100-foot pedestrian bridge out of 1/2" particleboard.</p>