is a 29 ACT good enough for these schools?

<p>is a 29 ACT at least close to the average for these schools? I think for the top schools and tier 2 schools like northwestern, duke, and cornell i am at the 25 percent mark... like Cornell is 28-32 and Stanford is 28-33. Upenn and Northwestern are 29-33. I am only 1 point above the 25 percent mark for Cornell and Stanford.</p>

<p>UCLA-----
UC San Diego---------
UC Davis--------
Berkeley---------
Irvine-----------
Georgetown
Stanford-common app
northwestern-common app
brown------
Harvard- common app
Princeton-Common APP
U of Chicago-----------
Cornell-COMMON APP
Yale- Common App
Upenn-COMMON APP
USC------------
Rice-common app
Duke-common app
NYU- common app</p>

<p>I'd say it would be too low for schools like Duke, Upenn, Yale, Cornell, Princeton, Harvard, Brown, Stanford, and Georgetown if your other stats aren't stellar or you are not an URM.</p>

<p>For UCD, UCSD, and UCI you should be fine.</p>

<p>For the other schools, it doesn't count you out, but it doesn't help you either. Still will need good stats and ecs.</p>

<p>if I'm at the 25 percent mark, then that means of admitted students, 25 percent had a score below a 29... so are all these ones below a 29 athletes, legacies, and URM's?</p>

<p>Private schools tend to focus more on you as a person than on your test scores. Therefore, while a 29 won't really help you, it also will not prevent you from getting into your dream school if you have wonderful extracurricular activities to which you have devoted a lot of time. </p>

<p>On the other hand, for public schools like the UCs, test scores are fairly important. A 29 is sufficient for Irvine, SD and Davis, but I'm not so sure about UCLA or Berkeley.</p>

<p>average for ucla is a 28 and a 29 for berkeley I think</p>

<p>"Private schools tend to focus more on you as a person than on your test scores."
- can anyone confirm this?</p>

<p>Yes. Its known that they do things holistically. They usually state it somewhere in the viewbook or on the admissions website. Public schools go for the numbers but will take circumstances in consideration (death, depression, economic pressure). 29 is borderline and you would need more things to make up for a bit below test score.</p>

<p>Have you tried the SAT or retaking the ACT?</p>

<p>i am an international applicant and have been going through this thread. do any of u think a 2090 in SAT will be good enough for colleges like vassar, davidson, trinity, colgate, lafayette? fyi i am also asking for financial aid.</p>

<p>FYI My son got a 29 on the ACT. He has a 3.5 GPA, good extra-curriculars, essay, recommendations. He has applied to Indiana University, U of Delaware, U of Connecticut, Union College, U of Maryland, SUNY Binghamton and Lafayette and Syracuse. He has been accepted at Indiana and is waiting to hear from the others.
His GC feels these schools are within striking distance.</p>

<p>29 is low for Havard and Princeton.</p>

<p>Here are the following ACT ranges for the schools listed in terms of most selective to least selective (a lot of people have posted misinformation):</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard: 31-34</li>
<li>Princeton: 30-34</li>
<li>Rice: 30-34</li>
<li>Duke: 29-34</li>
<li>Northwestern: 29-33</li>
<li>Penn: 29-33</li>
<li>Stanford: 28-33</li>
<li>UChicago: 28-33</li>
<li>Brown: 27-33</li>
<li>USC: 28-32</li>
<li>G'town: 27-32</li>
<li>NYU: 28-31</li>
<li>UCLA: 24-30</li>
<li>UCSD: 23-29</li>
</ol>

<p>You should have some safety schools in your list. Twenty nine out of 36 is quite low for the Ivies and for the near-Ivies. My students who apply to these schools avrage 32-34. And that is no guarantee for schools that have 10 percent admission, regardless of grades.</p>

<p>You should have some safety schools on your list. Twenty nine out of 36 is quite low for the Ivies and for the near-Ivies. My students who apply to these schools average 32-34. And that is no guarantee for schools that have 10 percent admission, regardless of grades.</p>

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Twenty nine out of 36 is quite low for the Ivies and for the near-Ivies.

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<p>if you notice from that list, many of the "near-ivies" in fact have better scoring students than the "ivies" so i'm not sure if the term "near" is appropriate</p>

<p>Probably too low for international if you want aid.</p>

<p>I forgot to include cornell in that list, with cornell, it looks like this:</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard: 31-34</li>
<li>Princeton: 30-34</li>
<li>Rice: 30-34</li>
<li>Duke: 29-34</li>
<li>Northwestern: 29-33</li>
<li>Penn: 29-33</li>
<li>Stanford: 28-33</li>
<li>UChicago: 28-33</li>
<li>Brown: 27-33</li>
<li>Cornell: 28-32</li>
<li>USC: 28-32</li>
<li>G'town: 27-32</li>
<li>NYU: 28-31</li>
<li>UCLA: 24-30</li>
<li>UCSD: 23-29</li>
</ol>

<p>Don't be discouraged by a not-so-spectacular score. Just remember: You are not defined by your test scores!</p>

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if I'm at the 25 percent mark, then that means of admitted students, 25 percent had a score below a 29... so are all these ones below a 29 athletes, legacies, and URM's?

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<p>firebird44-- important point....the 25%-ile as reported in US News, Common Data Sets, etc....is for ENROLLED students, not ADMITTED students. Admitted percentile ranges are always higher. Depending upon the school, this can mean a point or 2 on the ACT percentiles, making your 29 not look as good when compared to others admitted.</p>

<p>my circumstances are such... </p>

<p>my numbers alone aren't very spectacular... 29 act... 730 and 670 sat 2's a 3.5 uw GPA and a 4.18 weighted GPA. I took over 25 college classes in high school but got many B's.. I took a very rigorous course load, but got many B's which is why there is a big gap between my unweighted and weighted gpa. I'm ranked somewhere in the top 20 percent... but if colleges recalculate GPA and weight my college courses taken off campus, then I told them that my actual fully weighted rank is 6/556 (took over 15 college courses off campus). I feel everything else is decent. I work for the government and a city council member wrote recs for me. My father passed away and I had a huge upward trend since his death as I took more challenging courses ( wrote my essay about how his death made me want to work harder). I also send a video of me dancing bhangra, a traditional Punjabi dance (I doubt many applicants send in dance videos). Also, Eagle Scout and multiple sports and positions in clubs.</p>

<p>For UC's its much different...</p>

<p>uncapped gpa: 4.375 (I had a horrible freshman year... 2.9 gpa one semester)
capped: 3.8</p>

<p>To be quite honest, I just want to get into at least 1-2 private schools or at least ucsd or ucla.</p>

<p>Anything less than UCSD, I'll cry... Worked so hard in high school... a few girls that were so called "dirty" got into davis and irvine... : (</p>

<p>I found it weird that Chicago deferred me... I mean I think they liked me as a person because who would defer a 29 ACT kid that isn't even ranked in the top 10 percent? Obviously I stood out somehow... I JUST wish my gpa and test scores were a bit higher! Columbia rejected me :(</p>

<p>bump..........................</p>

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average for ucla is a 28 and a 29 for berkeley I think

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<p>Our Berkeley tour guide told us that the average SAT score for the class of '11 was around 2100 (31ish). I'm not sure if that's accurate info though.</p>

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"Private schools tend to focus more on you as a person than on your test scores."
- can anyone confirm this?

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<p>I don't think you will be rejected solely based on your test scores, but the rest of your application should be strong (essays, school record, recs, etc).
Some schools don't weigh as much on test scores as others--Chicago, for instance.</p>