<p>Ivies don’t share lists, not true at all, I can’t believe a counselor told you that. My counselor (I go to a huge top feeder HS) absolutely said this is not true. I think your choices are fine, makes sense to me.</p>
<p>Don’t worry about it. And you’re not the only person who finds New Yorkers loathsome.</p>
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Understood. But since there really are no universally respected rankings of specific undergraduate liberal arts departments, graduate program rankings are often used as proxies (same faculty, overlapping upper level classes, etc.).</p>
<p>The closest they get to sharing lists is when they ask about specific students they suspect of violating ED policies.</p>
<p>i.e. there was someone who applied ED to Penn and was admitted. He also applied RD to Harvard (in violation of the ED agreement) and was admitted. When Penn didn’t hear from him, they called up Harvard and asked about him. End result: his admission to BOTH schools was rescinded.</p>
<p>So that’s sharing, but hardly sharing by the list-load, and certainly not for the purpose of seeing if this kid is applying to too many Ivies</p>
<p>I have some questions for the people that have posted in this thread, if nobody minds.</p>
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One has an LAC feel, one has a strong graduate presence.
One has a more intellectual vibe, one has a heavy pre-professional emphasis.
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<p>Which one would be which in each case? (btw. Penn and Darmouth)</p>
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You have the three premiere schools, and two pseudo-liberal arts schools.
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<p>Again, which one’s which? I’m guessing HYP would be the premiere schools but I don’t know.</p>
<p>Finally, what is ED and RD?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Penn for pre-professional and Dartmouth for the LACish feel. And I’m guessing Brown is the other pseudo-liberal arts school the person is referring to.</p>
<p>Early Decision and Regular Decision</p>
<p>The kids at Penn and Dartmouth all go on to the same finance and consulting jobs in the end anyway. The cultures aren’t all that different. College kids are college kids. </p>
<p>I have no idea who decided that every applicant has to pick “rural or urban” and “lac-style or pre-professional” or else they’re prestige whores. my stance? your mother’s a whore.</p>
<p>I’m still wonderfing who decided that if has a strong “pre-professional” / “liberal artsy” element, it becomes a monolithic entity.</p>
<p>As if nobody at Brown went to Wall Street and nobody at Penn got a Ph.D in literature…</p>
<p>I’m still wondering why you don’t understand the difference between describing a culture and describing individuals.</p>
<p>^ I’m still wondering how a school with 6400 undergrads in its College of Arts and Sciences (one of the largest, if not the largest, among the elites), and more top-10 and top-20 liberal arts departments than all but a handful of the other elites (as varied as English, French, Spanish, Lingustics, Music, Art History, Religion, Economics, Anthropology, and Psychology, just to name a few), can be thought of as having only a pre-professional “culture,” when clearly it has thousands of undergrads (perhaps as many as Brown?) who AREN’T. :)</p>
<p>I only know from my own experience with Penn people, many of whom were not a part of Wharton, and I don’t mean my assessment of those people, but rather, their assessment of their own school. It’s not unfair to say that Penn has a much stronger pre-professional culture, comparatively speaking, to say Brown.</p>
<p>^ It’s not only NOT unfair, but is quite reasonable given the presence of Wharton and the engineering and nursing schools. But the point that ChoklitRain, ilovebagels, and I were attempting to make is that Penn’s pre-professional elements do not preclude it from also having an extremely large and vibrant liberal arts culture–one larger in aboslute terms than that at other elites generally thought of as being more liberal arts-oriented.</p>
<p>Penn’s big enough–and awesome enough (as ilovebagels loves to point out :))–to have it all, and to offer its 6400 liberal arts majors a strong, supportive liberal-arts environment.</p>