<p>Brown
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Dartmouth
U Penn</p>
<p>I have specific reasons for applying to each one, but a college counselor told me that the Ivies share lists, and that applying to 6 is too many and makes me look like I don't know what I want.
Is this true?</p>
<p>Tentative Major: Political Science
All of these schools have amazing political science programs, except for maybe Penn, but they have Huntsman.</p>
<p>Afterward, either want to go to law school or work in management and get my MBA. Not sure which yet.</p>
<p>Brown-unique education system with no core classes. good for me because i know what kinds of classes i want to take (no science). very liberal and accepting social atmosphere. they know how to party. people are the happiest here in the country. absolutely no cutthroat competition. </p>
<p>Harvard-it’s harvard. unparalleled faculty/alumni resources. passionate and intelligent peers. you can take classes at the jfk center if you’re a polisci major. harvard democrat club. great surrounding area, quaint yet busy. not dangerous. have some family in boston.</p>
<p>Yale- lax academic atmosphere (compared to other elite schools), school spirit and strong yale community, usually not socially awkward. very strong in social sciences. yale political union- most storied political debate association in the country bar none. very strong undergraduate moot court team. very interesting major: “ethics, politics, economics”…definitely want to major in that. amazing faculty and alumni resources.</p>
<p>Princeton-very strong political science department. strong undergraduate focus. strong research opportunities. can take polisci classes at woodrow wilson school. known for its interesting intro classes. </p>
<p>Dartmouth-lot of campus spirit and strong focus in intramurals. dartmouth outdoors club-oldest and best outdoors club in the nation. this is great bc i love to fish, camp, and hike. strong political science department. professors teach 95 percent of classes. fraternity life and strong social life. quarter program allows you to get the best internship and study abroad opportunities during the winter/spring/fall quarters that other college student’s cant take advantage of because they’re in school.</p>
<p>U Penn- i want to apply to the huntsman program. in 4 years, you get a BA in international relations and a BS from wharton, as well as a specialization in a language. this is exactly what i would want to do. also is a very social, inclusive community, and a lot of clubs and bars in the philly area.</p>
<p>I never understood how people could apply to both Penn and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>One’s in a city, one is secluded and rural.
One has an LAC feel, one has a strong graduate presence.
One has a more intellectual vibe, one has a heavy pre-professional emphasis.</p>
<p>But it’s good to know what you want, and if both schools offer something (or many things) you want, go for it.</p>
<p>^To be honest, I don’t understand why a student must fit an exact setting . I know plenty of students who would enjoy and thrive in any strong academic setting, regardless of its location, size, feel, etc, simply because they are able to enjoy/accentuate the specifics a school has to offer.</p>
<p>Yes, true, but it seems like those two schools are very much disparate. It would just seem like a student would know by the time they apply to college that they definitely want to live in an urban or area or not, and what kind of vibe they want on campus.</p>
<p>But of course you could just be attracted to two polar things - it varies from person to person.</p>
<p>Nah, I think your fine. If you have your reasons for applying to each university and are able to convey them in your applications and interview then you will be fine. I’m pretty sure they don’t share list and even if they do many people apply to all the ivies just because the chances of getting into one of them is so low (even if you are very qualified) that by applying to many may increase your chances.</p>
<p>It will look unfocused to whom? What your counselor describes is a shared list between universities for record keeping purposes. This will influence marketing and admissions decisions as compared to their peer institutions eg. which demographics to target, what type of info to send, how much contact. They won’t be weighing your grades, test scores and which schools you applied to in order to determine whether to accept you. I think that if you have good reason to apply for each school you are applying for, then go right ahead. FWIW, I also think it would be wise to hedge your bets and apply to a safety school in case you are way off on how competitive your app will be.</p>
<p>That is 100% untrue. I thought that it might have been true, but when I read Michelle Rodriguez [might be wrong name]'s book… she was the Dartmouth adcom officer who wrote a book on Admissions (A is for Admissions), she specifically said that the Ivies don’t even exist on any network together except once a year when they come together to argue about the AI (academic index) level necessary for recruited atheletes.</p>
<p>You have the three premiere schools, and two pseudo-liberal arts schools.</p>
<p>However, you shouldn’t worry about what other people think about you. Admissions officers do not share information with one another, furthermore.</p>
<p>Feel free to apply to as many top schools as you’d like, provided that you can craft outstanding applications to send to all of them.</p>
For what it’s worth, in the latest US News ranking of graduate political science programs, Penn is ranked #28 in the country, compared to Brown’s ranking at #46 (and Dartmouth’s program isn’t even ranked, as it has no graduate program):</p>
<p>HYP are the only ones with truly outstanding political science programs. Brown and Dartmouth’s departments are, like Penn’s, great, but not in the league of HYP. And of “the unremarkable 3” (Penn, Brown, Dartmouth), only Penn has a Law school, which has lots of overlap in faculty and is one of the few preeminent law schools to allow undergraduates to enroll in its courses.</p>
<p>And to clarify, the Huntsman Program is International STUDIES, not International RELATIONS (they are different–Penn also offers an International Relations major and minor, which some Huntsman students will avail)</p>
<p>You should certainly not drop Penn, but Yale does sound like the best for you (good luck on getting in though…)</p>
<p>If you want to apply to them all, by all means do so. Just realize that it’s going to be a lot of work and money, and please have a few safer schools on your list as well.</p>
<p>All of these schools have very, very strong undergraduate programs in the social sciences. Once again, I am not sure whether or not I want to major in PoliSci, Economics, IR, or something else in that field.</p>
<p>International Studies=International Relations + Foreign Language Study + Study of cultures and histories around the world. That’s definitely something I would be interested in.</p>
<p>And graduate polisci programs are not really important here. I have no intention of getting a MA in Polisci or a MPP.</p>