<p>My brother goes to Brown and he told me that "without question Yale is harder to get into than Brown and the accepted applicants are generally more impressive." You may love Brown, but HYP are more competitive than Brown. That's a simple truth.</p>
<p>Sure, "some people get into Brown and rejected from Yale, and others get into Yale and rejected from Brown," but more students who are admitted at Yale were also admitted to Brown than vice versa and the cross-admit yield favors Yale heavily.</p>
<p>Brown is NOT easy to get into. In fact, one of the things I think makes Brown especially difficult is that it is very self-selecting and looks for kids that will really "fit" the culture and are "likely" to attend. That's why a surprising number of kids are accepted to HYP but not accepted at Brown.</p>
<p>Now go ahead and trash me. But I think the bottom line is that no matter how much you play up Brown in an online forum -- and I think there are many things I love about Brown -- you can't deny that the competition is different. Sure, they are all hard to get into, but some have to be harder than others... BTW, Brown is really into this whole "internationalization" thing so it may help there even more to be a foreigner than it would at some other colleges...</p>
<p>Actually Yalie, you complete misinterpret what Brown means by "internationalization".</p>
<p>I'm not really sure why anyone thinks they're qualified to answer this question on here. We all only have anecdotal knowledge at best and an indicator that slightly less students percentage wide get into Yale. We don't have nearly enough information about the kinds of students not admitted or admitted to both to make any true comparison and it's nearly impossible to say that if you get into Brown you can get into Yale or if you get into Yale you can get into Brown. Not to mention any and all of these numbers would ignore students who could get into both but choose not to apply to both. Are admission rates at Yale reflective of greater challenge to get in or more people applying for the HYP mystique without the self-selection process that the Brown pool has a little of? Is Brown's inability to yield some kinds of cross admit students effecting the overall admit rate or is that a marginal to non-existent effect?</p>
<p>It's very difficult to make the calls on this kind of thing and make the definitive yes to either or the other. "Harder" at places like Brown and Yale also really doesn't mean a whole lot. The differences in accepted students and applicant pools and percentages allowed in are rather small, etc etc.</p>
<p>So basically, everyone should stop pretending they know the answer to this question definitively and realize that the more importance question is once you get into one, or both schools, where is the right place for you?</p>
<p>FWIW, being on the Yale campus this summer has definitely made me quite happy I go to Brown... but that's just my own personal taste/disclaimer.</p>
<p>"without question Yale is harder to get into than Brown and the accepted applicants are generally more impressive."</p>
<p>It's generally true at my school, a very competitive boarding prep school. Yale acceptees tend to be more impressive. Yale is seen as a more competitive school here. Knowing the kids who got into Brown this year (eight altogether), I'd say about half of them are great kids. They have good grades and have unique qualities and are good people in general. The other half? I've had classes with them and they got in because of connections and money with average grades and poor personality. As for Yale, eight out of nine who will be attending this year are top in the class and I'm not surprised at all that they got in.
just my own experience.</p>
<p>However, my history teacher, who've attended Brown for underg and Yale for grad, revealed that she had a spectacular experience at Brown, more so than at Yale, especially with the teachers. She didn't like her Yale teachers much.</p>
<p>Sure, the acceptance rate+competitiveness may differ with each school but hey...so is the experience-for some people.</p>
<p>The difference in acceptance rate between Yale and Brown is really insignificant. If you're going to argue Yale being more selective than Brown, it may be reasonable to say that the Yale applicant pool is slightly more impressive than Brown's. Still, both are ridiculously competitive.</p>
<p>y'all are idiots and rd is correct. the difference is miniscule. yes, statistically, yale is harder to get into by brown but when the differences are as tiny as these, it's absolutely meaningless, such that you cannot in any way accurately measure your chances. so why bother?</p>
<p>christ. the educations are both fabulous one is not better than the other it is a matter of fit and fit only.</p>
<p>honestly, you'll get a great education at either place.
for me the one thing that stands out more, is not so much why yale is slightly harder to get into, but the feedback from current students and alum. </p>
<p>i have never met someone who went to brown and regretted it. period. end of story. its not a myth that Brown students tend to "overall" be the happiest. theres got to be a reason why, right?</p>