COVID accelerated a number of trends that all dumped into the class of 2022 laps at the same time, with minimal opportunity for college guidance or parents to adjust. All of the kids are in the same boat.
Well@homerdog a lot of your assumptions really donât apply here. Actually, you can see if you look at the data both broadly and more closely that this year is very different. Not all out yet.
And yes kids do get multiple acceptances to top schools on a regular basis. Again not all schools are the same. Not dozens certainly but handfuls.
Many of these kids do have outstanding ECâs, athletic ability etc. Already weeded out 80-85% to get into said school so kids arenât the norm.
In a small school you can see trends. I think others are seeing this too re:outlier year. Iâm not talking about the smart kid who took 8 APs and wants to go to Princeton, Iâm talking about kids with strong things in every bucket who want to go to strong schools they have traditionally opened their doors.
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If those top kids applied to NEU ED, I bet they would have gotten in.
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I hear you!!
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So kids this year being turned down RD for places like BU and NEU got in last year? I
If your school is small and prestigious, are the guidance counselors also confused about the results? Donât they have relationships with AOs out there who they can call and get some answers?
I beg the differ. My Freind D22 , applied ED NEU all As APs , captain of varsity sports , the whole package )). She was rejected . She is going to Umass Amherst
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Is she from Massachusetts? Is she full pay?
Agree !
New Hampshire. Not sure about financial situation, we did not discuss that .
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Whatâs the definition of âmediocre â?
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NEU is need aware. Just one more piece of the puzzle.
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Middle of the class for grades and rigor, definitely not in the top 10 .
As for these top kids not getting into NEU from your school, has any student in the top 10 actually enrolled at NEU?
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How do the top decile at your HS plan their college lists, particularly the likelies/safeties? Also, do things generally work out for them in the end (i.e., they end up at a place theyâre happy with or is commensurate to their achievements)?
Last year 5-6 kids did go to NEU from
My D school. This year we donât know yet , kids still deciding .
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Top 10% use ED a lot. Many are legacies somewhere they would like to go and use that plus ED. A good handful are recruited athletes. Our high school wins state championships in many sports including tennis, golf, swimming and we have a lot of football recruits and running recruits too. Most of those kids are also very bright.
The STEM kids who want engineering are almost always accepted to UIUC (our flagship) which is strong in engineering. Top kids who want CS seem to be happy at Purdue. Our top ten last year went to Harvard (double legacy and outstanding student/athlete/leader), Brown (recruit), UIUC engineering (multiple kids), U Mich, Wash U (two kids), Georgetown, Northwestern ED.
In 2019, top 30 or so kids had very limited lists. It was kind of a joke. Some Ivies (of which none got in except the recruited athletes), NU, Chicago, Wash U, Duke, Vandy, UIUC as safety maybe UNC or UVA. Seriously, that was almost all of their lists. Since then, kids have started branching out more. Applying to UCs from Illinois and being full pay is pretty successful. Kids now apply to NEU, BU, and more of the LACs out east and are mostly successful in ED.
Forgot to answer about safeties, liklies. I think most top kids here use UIUC and Wisconsin for big state school options. After that, kids do their own thing. Some kids would apply to southern schools (Clemson, South Carolina), some would apply to places like DePaul or Loyola. Some to Indiana Kelley if they had any interest in business. S19âs likelies were Dickinson, Kenyon, and Grinnell. D21âs were Santa Clara, Denver and LMU.
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Yup, the Great Reset is upon us. The thread started with the observation that TO was an ideal way to build the class profile you want with no fear of blowback/lawsuits about scores. Add to that the hangover from deferrals of '20 and 21, âadversity scoresâ, plus in my case an unknown HS (great Archdiocese school but kids usually stay regional); itâs a tough time to fit the profile of the âtippy topâ student.
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The idea that STEM majors donât also need to be great communicators is preposterous.
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Thanks, @homerdog. Those are pretty good outcomes for the top students, and UIUC and Wisconsin are pretty good safeties to have.
On my side of the Atlantic, D22âs GC just reported that sheâs seeing more WLs among the schoolâs US applicants this cycle.
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Yes and yes, completely perplexed. All this is still shaking out.