but applying REA/SCEA to HYPS would exclude EA to Georgetown or Notre Dame.
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That’s not what you wrote - but ok.
Not in IL but it doesn’t matter. I’ve written before about friends who moved to Florida- and spent a year bragging about low property taxes compared to our town But then their kid who needed accommodations and support (which he got without a struggle here in our high tax school system) couldn’t get what he needed. And after another year of meetings and testing and evidence and whatnot (while their kid fell further and further behind) they reluctantly concluded that high tax school systems pay for “extras”- which NOBODY wants to pay for- except the families who need the OT, Speech, etc. Can’t have it both ways… “no frills” is great except when it’s the difference between your child learning to read or not…
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Of course, the kid could probably go to college in-state in Florida due to their generous funding. States differ in what they fund
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Interactive Map - The Institute for College Access & Success indicates level of student loan debt for graduates from each state’s colleges. Some of the highest debt levels are in the northeastern states, while some of the lowest debt levels are in western states.
Top 5, bottom 5, and a sampling of states mentioned recently:
| State | % with debt | Average debt |
|---|---|---|
| NH | 70% | $39,928 |
| DE | 60% | $39,705 |
| PA | 64% | $39,375 |
| RI | 64% | $36,791 |
| NJ | 63% | $35,117 |
| … | ||
| SC | 60% | $32,635 |
| … | ||
| MD | 55% | $30,461 |
| … | ||
| NC | 55% | $29,681 |
| … | ||
| IL | 57% | $28,552 |
| … | ||
| GA | 56% | $27,759 |
| … | ||
| TX | 56% | $26,273 |
| … | ||
| FL | 47% | $24,454 |
| … | ||
| WY | 48% | $23,510 |
| NV | 46% | $21,357 |
| CA | 46% | $21,125 |
| NM | 45% | $20,868 |
| UT | 39% | $18,344 |
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That’s correct, and different than saying you cannot apply EA anywhere else if you apply REA, without providing further qualification. I wanted to correct something that jumped out at me as inadvertently wrong/misleading to correct the record for the thread and future folks. Think we can move on now.
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No college is accepting a kid with LD’s reading at a second grade level. Not in Florida, not anywhere.
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Florida puts priority on those attending public college. Perhaps your state puts priority on the special ed needs. The point is, no state funds everything sufficiently, and states choose what they wish to fund. Your in state flagship is expensive because that is a decision by your legislatures and governor about where funds go.
Just a slight point of clarification. SCEA at HYP allowed applying to privates that had early deadlines for scholarship consideration. The two that I recall from my child’s application cycle were USC and U of Rochester. These were not true EAs as decisions were not communicated until maybe end of January? (I have forgotten the timing but it was long after RD deadlines had passed.)
Sometimes it is fortuitous to have a uni in a more rural area. Less expensive housing market, more room to expand facilities. I’ll say UC Berkeley is maxed out and beyond on how much they can build and expand. And they definitely charge more than $36k/yr in state.
Rural sucks if you want to commute though. I was a commuter in college and grad school. Had to drive over an hour each direction and the college was still in my metro area. It did not make for a great experience.
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Berkeley has a $44k cost of attendance.
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AFAIK, all of the REA/SCEA privates allow RD applications to be submitted early (for merit scholarships considerations, or not) to other privates. USC was a good example when it only had RD. USC now offers both EA and RD, so presumably an SCEA (Princeton, Yale) applicant wouldn’t be able to apply EA to USC (even for merit considerations). REA schools (Stanford, Harvard, Caltech) seem to make exceptions for early applications due to merit considerations (REA to Georgetown or Notre Dame doesn’t exclude applications to other EA schools, public or private). Is that what distinguishes SCEA from REA?
Also note that there are two different types of unrestricted EAs. One is the type that notifies applicants of their acceptances before the typical RD deadline (so the EA admits can decide whether to apply RD to more schools). The other is the type, which I call “EA with late decisions”, that notifies applicants of their acceptances in January or February (i.e. after the RD deadlines). USC’s EA is the latter.
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Assuming you pay sticker price, live on campus, and have >$5k per year “personal expenses” beyond tuition + room & board.
However, most Berkeley students do not pay sticker price. IPEDS reports an average net cost of $17,652 for students who received grant or scholarship aid, which is the majority, in the most recent available year. Members of this forum tend have high enough income to pay sticker price, but many students do not.
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Actually you can apply to USC with a REA application because USC requires an applicant to apply EA for merit consideration.
So, if you apply to Stanford or ND under their REA, you can also apply to USC under their EA.
Yes but we’re discussing total COA. Most school average after aid costs are way lower than sticker.
Also there’s almost zero merit as Berkeley. Mostly financial aid. And no financial aid for OOS
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That is why expansion of UC means UC Merced.
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Only some schools (such as Stanford) provide an exception allowing you to apply to a private school like USC due to their EA/merit deadline. Most others (examples: Yale and Princeton) don’t provide such an exception.
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See my corrections above. Thanks.
Note that REA schools differ here:
- Harvard, Stanford, and Caltech allow EA at other private schools when EA is needed for scholarships or special programs.
- Yale and Princeton do not have this exception to the exclusion of other private school EA.
- Georgetown and Notre Dame do not restrict other EA applications (only ED at other schools).
Since policies may change, it is always best to check the school’s web site to make sure.
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