That’s true- Yale def no. We had to apply usc rd.
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I have a colleague whose son is at Merced in CS (matriculated there over Perdue CS bc it was much more affordable for them, in-state with decent aid). He’s having a very good experience thus far.
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That is my understanding as well albeit have not been through this myself.
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Was just going to post that this thread (a super relevant topic from OP) has lost its way. Not sure why moderators haven’t stepped in.
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Getting back on topic
For S21 and D23 EA is working fine and I believe this is true for the majority of schools and High Stat students
Schools by having EA deadlines that can start as early as November 1st, get students that I believe are more organized and motivated to attend the school they are applying at. What do I mean by that? They have all their Letters of Recommendations, Essays, resumes, interviews, completed by an earlier date than the regular decision applicant.
For students a better chance of acceptance and merit ( Yes there are exceptions), data shows that schools offering EA accept a higher percentage of EA applicants compared to RD applicants
Students that apply EA get a decision earlier which takes stress off of Senior year. Knowing before Christmas that you are accepted is nice.
We are only waiting on one school at this time for D23 and she has options in state and out of state
Now some people are complaining about the decisions, especially deferred.
Deferred is a decision just not the one they wanted.
Deferral is a second chance at admission, at most schools your Application will be reviewed a second time against the regular decision applications.
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My kid applied EA everywhere he could. Now that the results are back, I’m not really surprised by any of the decisions he received (even if he was a bit disappointed by a few.) In summary:
1 very early (rolling admit) ‘safety’, with merit
3 EA admits from schools with 50% or higher acceptance rates (awaiting merit to see if they’ll be affordable)
3 deferrals from schools with 20% or less acceptance rates
1 denial
My kid is not looking at CS/Engineering - if he had been I would’ve spent lots more time asking him to focus on places that would be auto admit. Instead, once the first admission came in I backed off and let him apply wherever.
He is still waiting for instate options, and has 1 affordable out of state option. That’s really all I needed for peace of mind (but that doesn’t mean he’s not hoping for some more good news in RD.)
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Our EA/ED are all in now…
D23 was Accepted to two EA schools-- Colorado and Wisconsin (80% acceptance rate and 50% acceptance rate, but she is OOS for both, so likely a much lower rate.)
D23 was Deferred at one EA school-- Michigan (~10-15% acceptance rate for OOS)
S23 was Accepted with Honors and large Merit at one EA school-- UMass-Amherst (65% acceptance rate, but he’s OOS)
S23 was Deferred at his ED school-- Dartmouth (single digit acceptance rate but he is a Legacy)
Stats (for future readers trying to navigate this process)
D23
CA resident
IB Diploma
4.0/4.65
Rank 1/550
ACT: 35
Good ECs, Great essays
PT job
S23
CA resident
11 APs
4.0/4.6
Rank 6/400
ACT: 35
Decent ECs, Good Essays
2 PT jobs
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Helps if you can name the schools. Gives context - and your state of residence.
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will edit.
I hope everyone with EA deferrals can update later with their RD outcomes. That could be helpful to future applicants trying to make sense of earlier decisions.
Also, to all who are deferred (EA and ED), you have another semester to make your application that much more compelling (even as an already wow group!) Schools want to see not simply that you worked your tail off to have a great profile by the end of junior year but that you have sustained it and remains engaged. So if you have updates, provide them.
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Depends on the college. Some colleges defer almost all non-admitted early applicants, even those who have no real chance of admission, so deferral is usually a rejection, since the obvious rejects (from the college’s point of view) greatly outnumber the borderline ones. Other colleges try to gain advantage from this by offering ED-2.
Others defer only the true borderline applicants, so a deferral there means a significant chance of admission. These are the colleges known for rejecting lots of early applicants.
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There are always exceptions
Georgetown is known to defer all applicants they don’t accept
I see little downside to applying EA
and do not believe EA is backfiring for High Stat Kids
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Frankly, it depends on the school. Larger state schools – absolutely but often not for OOS students. More selective colleges – not so much.
@Techno13 Holly Molly! What do you have to do to get into a selective school?
@1dadinNC I think @Techno13 's children prove the point that sometimes there aren’t enough spots for every incredible applicant. They both also are dealing with deferrals, not rejections and I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of the deferrals turn into acceptances.
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Beats me. I have told them they have done everything under their control. They can’t help being from an overrepresented area, etc.
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I hope you’re right! Either way, the end of March has a double martini with my name written all over it.
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This is exactly what you pay for in privates. My DD lucked out and was assigned a CC that knew a few people in the AO of her top choice. I have no doubt this was invaluable. She was qualified but so is everyone else.
They were admitted to fine schools and deferred by 2 schools which are reaches for everyone, Dartmouth and Michigan out of state. They likely have more matches and safeties to hear from and more reaches as well
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Didn’t want to jinx anything by responding before we had D23’s EA outcomes!
She has definitely not been negatively impacted by EA. She’s been accepted to all her EA schools (2 reach RD still pending), many with honors/special opportunities. Since we were merit seeking she got the predictably wide range of awards from $0 to invitations to a handful of “premier” scholarship opportunities and interview weekends. She applied to a variety of schools as far as ranking/competitiveness and to a non-competitive STEM major. Most had admission rates in the 40%-60% range with a few outliers in both directions. The goal was to seek out “competitive targets” vs. reaches to help maximize merit and the outcomes were exactly what we were hoping she would see.
Her stats for reference -
4.0uw/5.2w
SAT: 1540 (+NMSF)
No ranking (Public Science & Math high school)
Solid ECs and leadership with a ton of volunteering.
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would you mind listing the EA schools?