<p>harvardalum: what's the deal with the apostrophe after your screenname - i mean, what omission, exactly, is it indicating?</p>
<p>Very well said PimpDaddy</p>
<p>PimpDaddy1, I believe the reason IIT students continue their education in America is twofold. Firstly, HYPSM have much better resources. Secondly, IIT grads desire jobs in America, since they are much more lucrative, and making the necessary connections is much easier from an Ivy than from IIT. </p>
<p>I stand by my earlier post. The average IIT student will trump the average HYPSM student in its strong departments (math, science, and engineering). However, I agree with PimpDaddy1's statement that the top students at IIT will be similar to the top students at the elite American schools. Top students at both institutions have the awesome ability to attain an intellegence so great that one can no longer rank one brilliant student above another. All these institutions have this type of student.</p>
<p>So why isn't your name IIT4me?</p>
<p>iv4me:</p>
<p>Again, what you say is generally correct, but you ignore all the other fine international universities presently in existence, ones that are in my opinion superior to ITT.</p>
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<p>I suppose that a topic stating that ITT is better than Harvard posted in the Harvard forum counts as anything but crap?</p>
<p>And while it may be a frightening prospect for you, I really don't care whether random strangers online "flame" me or not.</p>
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<p>I'll let the lack of both grammar and coherent logic in this statement speak for itself. Obviously, you are very emotionally attached to ITT and are incapable of addressing any of the points I made in my last post in a reasoned manner.</p>
<p>Also, regarding the Indian history/language part, that was a joke. One which not everybody understood.</p>
<p>u cant even write IIT. u write ITT. now that shows a true harvard brain</p>
<p>if you bother (rather if you have the mental ability to) read another thread that discussed a similar topic on the harvard board, you can read (again, if you can) what my point of view about IITs and IITians is.</p>
<p>Rather than everyone getting into a flame war, perhaps you could all realise you're trying to compare apples to oranges. If I wanted to study a subject like politics or philosophy, I'm pretty sure I'd be far worse off at IIT than Harvard.</p>
<p>And I'm sure IIT can do some subjects better than Harvard (I don't really know IIT, so I can't really say).</p>
<p>But it's just a stupid argument to have in the first place...</p>
<p>Indian has 1 billion people....... if a school only wants to admit student based on adademic performances on standarized exams, then obviously China and Indian are the places to go. Schoos like Beijing U and TsingHua can easily be considered as better schools than IIT if you look at purely academics. And also, schools MIT has a way better quality of education and research than IIT partly because of more well known professors and better resources.</p>
<p>Harvard is not the BEST </p>
<p>There are colleges in Europe and countries like Japan and Israel that are just as good as Harvard.</p>
<p>However, Harvard is the MOST PRESTIGEOUS, for some
strange and unjust reason it is considered the world's best University.</p>
<p>And that's why everyone wants to go there...</p>
<p>It is precisely because "everyone wants to go there" - and because it gets its pick of the world's best and brightest - that Harvard <em>is</em> the world's greatest university.</p>
<p>Is this "just"? Perhaps not. But as President John F. Kennedy (A.B., '40) famously observed, "Life is unfair."</p>
<p>yea well, you've got a point there. But then again, consider this:</p>
<p>MIT is considered the world's leading technological university, and the best and the brightest from all over the world come there. But at teh same time, the Israeli 'Technion' (technological college) introduces more patents and inventions than MIT every year! and all this is true despite the facts that the 'Technion' has only 6 million people to choose from, while MIT has 6 billion.</p>
<p>no one said Harvard is THE best. no school can be claimed as the best. there is always another institution who could do better in any perticular field... but overall speaking, harvard does have the most fame and prestige. if it's one well known university in the world that someone were to name, it'd most likely be harvard. but that's not the point here. IIT is a great school, very selective, but you really can't try to disparage harvard just because IIT is more selective in a country of over 1 billion people and is better at some of the technological fields.</p>
<p>I bet all the people who are defending IIT are Indians. IIT has no prestige to people other than Indians-however the graduates do have respect by people in the know. </p>
<p>I really didn't want to bring this topic up, but since it has already been introduced into this thread ...
Chinese Universities such as Beijing and TsingHua produces some of the most brilliant math and science students in the world, with its degrees more lucrative than ever. The competition is fierce- more than that of IIT by far- as well as the standardized entrance exam.</p>
<p>In my opinion, these 2 universities trump IIT. But that's only my opinion, right?</p>
<p>I have a friend whose opinion might matter.
<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2003/01-17iit.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.microsoft.com/billgates/speeches/2003/01-17iit.asp</a></p>
<p>Academically, I would not say that Harvard is the best. There are universities that are on Harvard's level as far as giving a good 5 academic star education. However, as far as name recognition and prestige, Harvard is the best. It's the most renowned institution in the world. If a person were to give a list of good universities, Harvard's name would always appear. This may not be fair, but that's just the "way it is."</p>
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<p>I'd take a look at that statement. The math part is almost certainly wrong. A great way to evaluate math talent in a college is to look at how many IMO participants it has, especially from the very strong countries (China, US, Russia, Bulgaria, Romania, Vietnam.) (India isn't one of them.) Now, Harvard, MIT, and Princeton have an enormous edge in IMO'ers. So if we set up the best 6 kids at Harvard and the best 6 kids at IIT in math and had them take the IMO, the Harvard kids would crush the IIT kids. Another point of view is research - the big name US schools produce math research much more heavily then IIT (or any other colleges in the world.)</p>
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<p>Amen to this! It's good to see someone with an intelligent perspective on this matter, as opposed to a sixteen year old's juvenile ramblings about "flaming" with his imaginary "e-posse".</p>
<p>tetrahedr0n, he's talking about the average IIT student. The average IIT student will be highly proficient in math and science. The average HYPSM student I'm sure will not be as talented in math and science, considering that there are many humanities students. As far as your contention that the top 6 math kids at Harvard would "crush" the top 6 kids at IIT, i think that's debatable.</p>
<p>I think both institutions are perstigious in their own right. IIT engineering is WAY stronger than Harvard engineering, and Econ at H will be WAY better than econ at IIT (if they even offer it). The top people from both places would probably be on par with each other.</p>