<p>On average, my school sends about 4 out of 300 to an ivy league, which is like 1 percent..is it better for you if your school sends a lot of people to top schools are less? How does the amount sent to ivies affect your addmission chances? Sorry if this doesn't make sense, its 12 am :)</p>
<p>its beter if your school is better</p>
<p>how many kids your schools ends to ivys is a good sign but not an end all</p>
<p>that sucks for me..haha 1 percent.
we had a brown (i just came back from summer@brown, i want to go there, but probably can't get in)
a Princeton (im in NJ), and two cornells</p>
<p>It depends. If it is an elite school (public OR private), then there are likely more people who attend Ivy League schools. As a result, if they do well, colleges will realize that you are prepared. The flip side is that you may be competing against stronger candidates (you ARE compared to people at your school, and there IS a limit as to how many students a school will accept from yours).</p>
<p>If your school has a track record that is consistent with many of its students
suceeding at top schools it is good. There have been years at my school
(which places 15-20% in top schools) where the prior set of students
did not pan out at a particular college and there is a negative effect on
the numbers in 2 years. Also some lesser ranked Ivys (left unnamed) have
reacted violently in the past to being used as a safety by my school's top 5 students (tends to reflect unfortunately on the GCs credibility).</p>
<p>Not necessarily. More students who end up at more Ivies could mean a couple of things:</p>
<p>1 - You go to a school with a lot of rich kids who can afford it.
2 - You go to a school with a kick-ass counselor who has some connections.
3 - You go to a school that is well-known for its academic rigor and the quality of its students.</p>
<p>Of course, #2 and #3 are good reasons, but usually the reason is #1.</p>
<p>The vast majority of high schools across the nation don't send a lot of students (or any) to elite institutions for undergrad. Moreover, there are too many high schools for schools to keep track of and know the reputation of.</p>
<p>I also don't believe that lesser-ranked Ivies 'react violently' to anyone using them as a safety. First of all, even the top students at top schools shouldn't be using any of the Ivies or other top-ranked schools as a safety (that's dumb), and second of all a person can only attend ONE school. How in the world would the university know that the students are using them as a safety? More likely they would assume that they got a better financial aid package or fit at another school. It certainly won't reflect badly on a guidance counselor's credibility. Colleges aren't expecting GCs to furnish them with top students. That's their own job.</p>
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How in the world would the university know that the students are using them as a safety?
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Because they asked the counselor where these kids they really wanted ended up going, and the counselor says HYP. Safety, of course, is a relative term. These kids didn't use the lesser Ivy's as an absolute safety, they used it to be able to go to an Ivy school if HYP didn't take them. If no Ivy came thru, they'd go to one of the other places they applied.</p>
<p>Look, you're entitled to your opinions about whether this (reacting violently) happens or not. But its been frequently discussed and observed that the top schools like to build a relationship with strong HS's. It works both ways -- the college will trust the counselor when they say they have a kid that may not look as strong on paper as some others but is really right for the school, the flip side is the school expects the counselor to be helping them out to get some top kids to enroll. If a college is displeased with a counselor they send a message by turning down applicants from that HS. You want to see this be almost guaranteed to happen, have a kid renege on their ED commitment and the counselor didn't notify other schools where they had applied of the ED acceptance.</p>
<p>Mikemac described the situation very well regarding the GC.</p>
<p>We have had Dartmouth and at one point UPenn (Engg)
applicants accepted in droves. When the yield from that year
shows them that they were used as relative safeties the
strong message has been sent subsequently.</p>
<p>Regarding Post#6:
Reason #3 applies to my school which is ranked in the top
100 public schools in the US; most of the rich people around
here are in private schools.</p>
<p>CC has a majority of flamers who believe considering an IVY a safety
is "dumb"- no, it is not really dumb. Not doing meticulous research on
your options however might be negligient (I hesitate to call anything
or anyone dumb) on the other hand.</p>
<p>There are specific options within IVYs that are relatively easier to get in
than into some of the top ranked non IVYs. Columbia's foo for example
for ECE is way easier to get into than UCBs Engg school for an equivalent
major. Similar things can be said of specific programs in UPenn etc. It does
not mean the IVY as a whole is easy to get into. It means that if the
applicant is interested in a specific major and convey their passion
appropriately they can treat it as a safe choice.</p>
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1 - You go to a school with a lot of rich kids who can afford it.
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<p>This is stupid. Many Ivies give out massive FA packages.</p>
<p>Overall, it's completely better for the students at your school. The college adcoms will know that your HS is capable of producing solid applicants -- a lot of questions will be removed from their minds. It's evidence that some high level of academic performance is being achieved at your HS. Now whether or not YOU have what it takes -- that's the only thing you can control.</p>