Is it me or

As with any open-access institution, it’s complicated. It’s particularly complicated by the way our state’s public universities work, where it’s entirely possible to be matriculated and get your degree at one of them, but take many if not (in some cases) most of your courses from another. But that said…

First, the simple: Our 4-year graduation rate is 12%, and our 6-year rate is 32%. The 8-year graduation rate is 45%.

At the most recently reported 6-year point, of the of the 68% who hadn’t graduated from my institution, 8% of the total (that is, not 8% of the 68%, but 8% of all of them) received a lower than baccalaureate level (usually an associates) and stopped their education there, 23% transferred to another institution and had either graduated or were still enrolled, and 18% were still at my institution. (There’s a rounding issue in there, but close enough.)

Of that 18%, the vast majority (based on past trends) ends up receiving a baccalaureate degree from the institution by year 10 (with a small but meaningful number of the ones who had transferred out coming back in and graduating from here, just to make it more complicated).

And, of course, like every institution, these are numbers for first-time traditional freshmen. Those make up slightly under half of our baccalaureate-level enrollment. Other students are harder to track, but the overall trends seem to be similar, except that it’s sped up a bit since most of them come in with a solid number of college credits already.

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You can make it work if you want to - or need to. Much of my daughter’s financial aid worked for only 8 semesters. She needed 131 credits to graduate and had zero credits going in. She had a chart for the sequence of courses and completed them as suggested. Her final semester she had 4 credits that were true electives, just needed the credits (tennis and Spanish). She knew what she had to do and did it. I don’t know what the 4 year grad rate is or the 6 year, but it’s an engineering school so 4 year is low. You can put yourself in that 4 year group if you want to. (or your mother can prod you along)

If she’d started at CC, she would have done what she needed to do there too. Some kids are just determined.

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No option more affordable then what he is sitting on, adding in the travel expenses that would be incurred.

8 ish thousand over 4 years is a cup of Starbucks a day

Not that significant if you are talking CC vs a 4 year residential experience

What does SES mean? I looked in the abbreviation thread and its not there LOL

He will be unhappy and spending just as much or more $ than one of the places he liked? On what planet does that make sense?

20K to go to Corncob Nebraska
20K to go to Westminster MD

Its the same difference.

OP- so glad he’s got an affordable option. I don’t buy coffee at Starbucks (not in my budget, sadly) but we all make choices.

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I don’t either, but 8K in the grand scheme of things is not that significant. (4 year college education)

Especially when the small amount of merit that exists as a freshman instate goes away when you transfer in as an upperclassman

For example Stockton offered him 5K a year It tops out at 3K a year as a transfer and you need a 4.0

Assuming he continues to be a 3.75 student he would get 2K if he slips by 1/100 of a point it would be 1K
Amounts:

  • GPA 3.4-3.74:
    $1,000/year
  • GPA 3.75-3.99:
    $2,000/year
  • GPA 4.0:
    $3,000/year

Known vs unknown

SES = socioeconomic status

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Ahhh thanks. For the life of me I couldn’t figure out what it was.

I don’t think he meant that he buys Starbucks every day and will now stop, but only that $2K per year can be eked out of the budget to give his son a full 4-year experience at a reasonably good quality college. I don’t get why people seem to be so judgmental about this choice.

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Not at all judgmental. It’s a win for his son.

Just pointing out that as folks here have tried to help the OP come in at or under budget, he’s continued to poke holes in our suggestions. I assumed there was no flex in the budget whatsoever (which is reality for thousands of kids). Glad to hear that’s not so.

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Yes, buy suggesting Upper Midwest Oklahoma state, which really doesnt come in under budget when travel is factored in.

Please stop. Many of those suggestions were made before you started talking about travel costs, and then others were brought up that still worked with that until other issues were brought up.

But it turns out that $20k wasn’t a hard boundary after all, and that you’ve found something that works for you and him. Just let everyone be happy you found it, and don’t discount the work many of us put into trying to help you come up with alternatives.

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Really? He has been presented options cheaper than that that dont involve air travel.

So what? Travel costs are somehow magically not costs?

A greyhound to Philly from Reading or Baltimore is like 30 bucks if there were an emergency.

University of New Mexico New non-resident freshmen with a 3.0 GPA or a test score of 20 ACT or 1030 SAT may be eilgible to pay the tuition and fee rate of New Mexico residents if awarded a scholarship. ***This could be less than tuition rates in your home state.***Come to New Mexico! :: Office of Admissions | The University of New Mexico Tuition 8900 a year 25000 a year total costs

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Just saying, make of it what you will:

At a certain point, even the high school CC kids get that it’s time to say, “Thank you” and move away from the arguments. Or adding, “I’ll keep searching for a better solution, but I appreciate some tried to help.”

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I’ve actually been looking into University of New Mexico, but 25k is still high for us (efc 12k) and probably the op. Out of state publics might be less in some cases, but that doesn’t make them affordable.
Flights from New Jersey to Albuquerque are also expensive.

@Billb7581, just let us be happy for you, okay? Please stop trying to suggest that those of us who were trying to help you upthread were acting in bad faith or whatever.

University of New Mexico from website $1968 for travel in budget
|Tuition & Fees|$8,863.00|
|Room & Board - Traditional|$10,262.00|
|Books & Supplies|$1,266.00|
|Transportation|$1,968.00|
|Miscellaneous|$2,208.00|
|Total|$24,567.00|