<p>TatinG: UCB is not over represented by students from Vietnam.</p>
<p>Again; Looking for diversity doesn’t mean racism.</p>
<p>It is similar to looking for a more cosmopolitan area to live.</p>
<p>Jersey13: I said statistics is skewed by the fact that more asian students come for higher studies than any other ethnic group like Hispanics, African American.
And in the 1990s a lot more skilled asian came thru jobs than any other ethnic group. These children of these skilled Asian have been skewing the statistics at UCB or like.</p>
<p>“Again; Looking for diversity doesn’t mean racism.”</p>
<p>You probably went over this before but this thread is 13 pages…</p>
<p>Why does looking for homogeneity mean racism?</p>
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<p>Me too. When we did colleges visits this past 8 to 12 months, I kept looking for black students.</p>
<p>But we’ve done this in other settings. We like to vacation by cruise ship. So when we took our first cruise back in 1996, it was not until the 3rd day that we saw another black passenger and this was on a ship that carried 2000 passengers. Needless to say, we felt more comfortable for the balance of that cruise. Since it seems that blacks have now discovered cruising, we no longer have to look for the one needle in a haystack.</p>
<p>well…considering the horrors of the middle passage (probably still in our collective cellular memory), i think u can understand why it took some of us a minute or two to warm up to the joys of cruising…</p>
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<p>I still dislike cruises. You spend too much time “trapped” with your compadres ( not to mention “hurling”), and not enough exploring new cultures.</p>
<p>I guess it is a little racist to dislike a school for its Asian population.
Well, it would be racist if someone didn’t go to a school because it had too many African-Americans. If it would be racist for one race, then it is racist in the equivalent situation with another race.
But honestly, I’m Asian, and if you dislike a decent school such as UC Berkeley (one of the best state uni’s in the US) for the number of Asian students it has, I’d think you were pretty much an ignorant fool and nobody else would really care.</p>
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<p>It doesn’t as long as it doesn’t exclude anyone. Choosing to live in Jewish area or in China town is a preference. Refusing to let another ethnicity live there is racism.</p>
<p>“It doesn’t as long as it doesn’t exclude anyone. Choosing to live in Jewish area or in China town is a preference. Refusing to let another ethnicity live there is racism.”</p>
<p>Well, choosing to not attend a college because the college isn’t white enough (or Jewish enough, or Chinese enough, or whatever it is) doesn’t refuse any other ethnicity a place there. Infact, it opens up another spot.</p>
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<p>What’s so wrong about not liking UCB because it is not as diverse, there are students who don’t like Noter Dame because of the same reason or Emory.
It is a fact that a more diverse campus would provide a better experience. Both Stanford and MIT are more diverse and certainly more preferable.</p>
<p>QwertyKey: True and that is why it is not racism.</p>
<p>What are we arguing about then?</p>
<p>^Oh… Hmmm… I thought you were saying the opposite… My bad.</p>
<p>@ParentOfIvyHope, but this discussion is called “is it racist [to] feel turned off by a school because it has too many Asians”, it is specifically judging against the Asian race (as it would have been if the word Asian were replaced by Hispanic). It may mean that the OP is turned off in terms of the not so diverse atmosphere, but going against a certain race or trying to segregate from a particular race is kind of racist.</p>
<p>“t. If those whites feel so strongly that over a third of the school, or almost 9,000 fellow students, being white is inadequate for them, i.e. isn’t ‘enough’ of their own race to feel comfortable, then I say it’s racist”</p>
<p>Some research possibly related to this has been that when it comes to housing integration, white flight begins when the proportion of blacks begins to exceed one-third of the neighborhood.</p>
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If you wanted your neighborhood to stay diverse you really had to work at it. Our neighborhood was at that tipping point in the early 60s. The problem was that real estate agents stopped thinking of it as a place to show prospective white families. The neighborhood association ended up meeting with local agents. They also put advertisements in upper West Side newspapers reasoning that people from that neighborhood in NYC might like a diverse neighborhood in the suburbs if they decided to leave the city when they had kids. We still have lots of ex-West siders and we are still are very diverse. (Though we now have more Hispanic families in our mix than we did 50 years ago.)</p>
<p>Sorry to get off topic, but the history of our neighborhood is quite interesting!</p>
<p>My neighborhood is really diverse except in that most people work for the city or state in some fashion. Every race, ethnicity, with a tip toward the Irish. I guess Irish firemen are the most prevlalent group in the neighborhood. The houses are gorgeous and the yards, too. A couple of years ago a man who owns a successful business inherited his parents’ house and decided to rent it to the illegal immigrants that work for his business. That worked so well that he bought several more houses (the actual number is hard to come by) and did the same. That caused some significant problems for the neighborhood and has had a huge impact on property values. You can’t have huge numbers of young, single men living in a family neighborhood, driving without licenses or insured vehicles and acting as unattached young men do, without significant problems. My neighbor across the street (he is a black bus driver) is the most incensed about all this because it took him years to buy his house and he’s seen all his hopes evaporate. He would like to run over the business owner, but he is “connected” so untouchable.</p>
<p>Is it Racist feel turned off by a school because it has too many Asians? </p>
<h1>193 nailed it. It is ignorant, not racist.</h1>
<p>My family also asks the question, “where are the Black folks”, when we venture out. For our honeymoon we went on a cruise. There were 4 paying black people. Anyway, my husband and I were gracious when the white educator from Chicago walked up to us while we were just sitting and chatting and started a conversation about why he couldn’t vote for Jesse Jackson. (lol wth?) He was very pleasant and we talked about other things, too. Was it racist? No. It was just ignorant. We still chuckle about that.</p>
<p>“Is it Racist feel turned off by a school because it has too many Asians?”</p>
<p>Definately racist. Nobody would question if it is racist or not in case "Is it Racist feel turned off by a school because it has too many Blacks? " So, what is a difference? There are 3 major races in a world: caucasian, black, asian. They are very different biologically. Even in cases of pre-natal care, some tests might be skewed for asians vs caucasians. So, why people question that “asian” is a race? Yes, it is a separate race.</p>
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Is that a new Atlanta Compromise?
In all things purely social we can be as separate as the five fingers, and yet one as the hand in all things essential to mutual progress. - Booker T. Washington</p>
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<p>There’s nothing wrong with it, unless a person feels compelled to accept the outside judgments of the PC-thought-police who disapprove of selecting a less-diverse in-state public U for a much more diverse private U which represents more continents, countries, races, and ethnic groups among its undergrad population than that of UCB and many other publics. The irony is that such disapproving people merely demonstrate by their statements how very non-openminded they in fact are. “Diversity”? I don’t think so. More like rigidity. I’m not impressed with how supposedly open-minded some of you believe yourselves to be.</p>
<p>That has nothing to do with the absolutely fabulous education to be attained at UCB, of which I am one of its fondest fans. It has everything to do with differing atmospheres and social environments and opportunities for interactions (combined, often, with size of campus, combined with varieties of social confidence among individual students), among the thousands of excellent U’s in the U.S.</p>