<p>I know apps increase some 40 or 42% or so this year, but does that really mean it's going to be that much harder? Most of these kids applied because Chicago sent them so much junk, meaning either a) they figured why the hell not or b) thought this meant they had a chance at admissions. Though neither of those points means the applicants are going to be very competitive or very likely to attend the school. Do you guys think it will really be that much harder to get in? </p>
<p>What do you predict the basic stats will be compared to last years:
ACT Middle 50%
29-34
SAT Middle 50%
1320-1530</p>
<p>I think 75th percent will be the same but 25th may be closer to 1350 since they will have more applicants to choose from. Haha that made no sense I’m just guessing for the heck of it. Let’s see if I’m right come April.</p>
<p>My honest opinion is that the applicants decreased in quality on average this year, so the basic stats for this year will probably be about the same as last year’s.</p>
<p>It’s not going to become harder overall, per se. Just more arbitrary. RD will be significantly more competitive, though. EA, about the same, maybe less competitive.</p>
<p>applicants decreased in quality on average? I think it’s very unlikely. My guess for such an increase: 1) everyone applies to more schools
2) population increase
3) overseas applicants increase.</p>
<p>I don’t know why UChi changes its DEAN of ADMISSIONS? I think I must have got in, according to last year’s standards. ( I think my academics stands out better than my EC. My EC’s somewhat weak.)But I got a deferral and I was heart-broke. ~>_<~</p>
<p>BTW, I think I won’t be surprised if the overall admission rate for 2010 applicants decreases to less than 10%. (then UChi is on its way to be as popular as HYP.haha)</p>
<p>Oh come on I don’t think there will be drastic changes in the accepted applicant pool. If you are a qualified applicant you still have a good chance to get into Chicago.</p>
<p>Every article I have read has basically claimed it is going to be impossible to get into UChicago for the average applicant to these types of schools. I am in no way strong enough to apply to HYP, but I think with last years stats I had a strong chance at Chicago. Plus, two kids from my school with a lower rank and lower scores than me got in EA…so I thought I had a chance. However, I don’t know anymore what RD is going to look like…</p>
<p>Yes, it’s probably more competitive if you look only at numbers. But, you have to remember that they’re looking at fit as well. I doubt that a kid with excellent stats who just threw Chicago an application and didn’t consider the “fit” aspect of it is going to get in over a kid with decent stats that spent weeks personalizing Chicago’s essays and making the app unique. </p>
<p>If you’re meant to go there, then you’ll get in. If you are a good fit, and it comes off in your essays/transcript, then you’ll get in. At this point, you can’t get into a numbers game. You’ll just psych yourself out. Just know that you put forth your best effort and hope that Chicago sees how amazing you are as compared to the masses. That’s really all you can do. It’s not harder in the sense that they are still looking for the same qualities in an applicant. You just have to hope you fit that.</p>
<p>jackdaniels - the big difference this year is in the RD pool. This year, Chicago accepted A LOT of people EA, which means there will just be fewer spots in the RD pool. EA difficulty was probably consistent to years past. RD difficult will probably increase a lot - with a dip in the RD accept rate of about 20% to about 12% or so.</p>
<p>Okay so I did some math. According to some statistics, U Chicago is looking for a class size of 1350. They have already accepted 1676 from EA, and, assuming a yield rate of 37.5% (on par with previous years) 620 of those students will enroll. That leaves 730 spots. </p>
<p>U Chicago received 19306 applicants this year. Subtracting the EA applicants from that number gives us 13423 RD applicants. In order to fill the remaining 730 spots, once again assuming 37.5% yield, Chicago will have to accept roughly 1950 students. This means that the acceptance rate for RD should be around 15%. </p>
<p>So, it is not going to be impossible to get into Chicago this year, but mathematically it will certainly be more difficult than past years. But aside from the increases in applications there are other factors in play. If we assume that the quality of the applicant pool was lower, your chances will go up.</p>
<p>Has Chicago stated they won’t increase the class size at all? Would they be rigid about maintaining ~1350 student class sized, despite the tremendous increase in applications? </p>
<p>Also, I would be curious to see if the yield rate maintains. I wonder if this aggressive marketing campaign by the College actually made a difference in yield…</p>
<p>cmh: You’re forgetting the number of deferred applicants, though. If you add them in, you’re looking at an 11-12% RD acceptance rate. Assume that 2300 students were either accepted or rejected, which is probably close to the real number. Then Chicago will be accepting 1950/17000 = 11.4% in the RD cycle. Even THAT is counting people taken off the waitlist. So not counting the waitlist, about 10% will be accepted RD. This was Princeton’s acceptance rate last year.</p>
<p>but since so many more people applied to chicago this year, shouldn’t we assume the yield is probably going to go down? in general, the average applicant is applying to MANY more schools this year. that’s why just about every top school has seen an increase in applications. it only makes sense that most schools are going to experience a lesser yield this year than in past years. </p>
<p>I also think it is safe to assume that the quality of applicants has decreased, seeing how many of these kids applied because they probably assumed the mail/letters from chicago meant they had a better chance than you average applicant.</p>
<p>Fit is a vague word that is noble but to many is meaningless. How could an applicant know X school is a perfect fit for him/her by never attending it but reading some literature and listening to a few people? It does not take much effort to find out from CC that many EA acceptees of Chicago who got in with supposedly great ‘fit’ and ‘passionate’ essays that would make adcom cry are also waiting for RD decisions from their several other 'fits."</p>
~>_<~</p>