<p>Will being from Southern California count against me?</p>
<p>Well there are two pools of applicants that the admissions committees will consider. The first is the instate pool, of which about 40-45% of applicants will be accepted. The second is the out of state pool, of which about 15-20% of applicants will be accepted. So, yes, it will be difficult to get into UNC from California, but no more difficult than the applicant from Virginia or Minnesota or any other state but NC. And if I may ask, are you considering your own state schools?</p>
<p>out of state is really hard to get into. on average, only about 20 percent of out-of-state applicants get in, compared to around 45 percent of in-state applicants. however, if you’re out-of-state, they’ll consider your legacy status, if you have one. sucks that i’m in state and have like 5 people in my family who went to carolina :/</p>
<p>Being from CA specifically will not count against you and in fact the geographic diversity might help you as long as you are competitive with the rest of the top of the OOS pool.</p>
<p>Are you male or female? Since the female to male ratio at UNC is 60/40 being a male with highly competitive stats can be an advantage in admissions if all else is equal.</p>
<p>OOS admission is very difficult because OOS enrollment is capped at 18% by state law. That means that over 15,000 OOS applicants are generally competing for around 630-650 spots. The credentials that most OOS applicants have will rival those at many Ivies and other “highly selective” schools and in fact admission to many of those schools can be easier than OOS admission to UNC.</p>
<p>If your GPA, SATs and ECs are competitive by all means apply; as I said being from Cali could actually help you in the process.</p>
<p>I am sooo glad to be an in-state male.</p>
<p>I am considering UCLA and Cal Berkeley but both look for very high GPA’s and mine is only about 4.2 weighted, only good enough for the 17th percentile at my school.</p>
<p>I’m a cacausian male with reasonably good stats, 2110 SAT, 31 ACT, going to be a senior with 9 AP’s by the time I graduate. I also played football and baseball with plenty of community service and some leadership type stuff</p>
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<p>I could swear that UNC’s average incoming GPA is a 4.2…</p>
<p>i always see people with weighted gpa’s in the 4-4.5 range, and that confuses me. what scale is that on? because my school calculates weighted on a 6-point scale.</p>
<p>"Average GPA was 4.44*</p>
<p>*For those students from high schools that report GPAs on a weighted 4.0 scale"
[Discover</a> academic opportunities that distinguish Carolina](<a href=“http://www.admissions.unc.edu/Academics/Class_Profile_and_Rankings/default.html]Discover”>http://www.admissions.unc.edu/Academics/Class_Profile_and_Rankings/default.html)</p>
<p>In North Carolina a 4.44 is at least top 15% at most schools…maybe even val in rural areas. A 96+ in a standard class is a 4.0, 96+ in an honors class is a 5.0, 96+ in an AP class is a 6.0. There are some required standard courses and most NC schools don’t offer a heck of a lot of AP courses.</p>
<p>also take into consideration that a lot of the 18% is used for athletes.</p>
<p>but im in the same situation and i still have hope!</p>
<p>^I think you mean 94+ for all of those. NC schools (or at least Wake County) start an A at 93.5, thus getting you the 4.0 in a standard class, 5.0 in honors and 6.0 in AP. AP courses are limited at a lot of schools, especially the newer ones in Wake, which really limits us. My school has been open for about 7 years now, with 5 graduating classes, and still has a pretty limited selection of AP classes. That means our GPAs are limited to about a 4.7, and our ranks are really close together. My class’s rank goes from 1 to 2, then to 10, 19 and 29, with people tied for all of those, except for first & second. Annoying. As. Hell.</p>
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<p>I think they found a loophole that allows them to count athletes as instate.</p>
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<p>It’s a 96+. If Wake County is doing something different it is in violation of of NC State Board of Education Policy GCS-L-004 (Policy outlining standards to be incorporated into the electronically generated high school transcript) and I would be happy to bring their attention to such violation.</p>
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It also appears that WCPSS uses the standard scale (A=4.0 S, 5.0 H, 6.0 AP) instead of the augmented 96+ scale. However, an A still has to be a 93+ and not a 93.5+.</p>
<p>First, I think, out of all the counties, if Wake County was violating that code, someone would have noticed by now. From what I found by searching that policy, it looks like schools have the option of using the standard scale or the augmented scale, so I guess they aren’t doing anything wrong. I know Carteret County uses the augmented scale, but Charlotte-Mecklenburg schools also use the standard scale. If the website (<a href=“http://sbepolicy.dpi.state.nc.us/Policies/GCS-L-004.asp?Acr=GCS&Cat=L&Pol=004[/url]”>http://sbepolicy.dpi.state.nc.us/Policies/GCS-L-004.asp?Acr=GCS&Cat=L&Pol=004</a>) I found this info on is wrong, feel free to let me know.</p>
<p>And, I mistyped before. It’s a 92.5, A starts at 93. ha, I guess I got the numbers off since being out of school.</p>
<p>(As an aside the above policy was just changed this month, though not significantly)</p>
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<p>If I read WCPSS policy correctly also they do not weight classes for transferring students when such a class was not available in WCPSS. I also find this a violation of the above policy and if I could do anything about it, I would. </p>
<p>Never assume though that people in the wrong get called out. Like no agency in NC follows the open records law and no one has really gotten in major trouble yet.</p>
<p>I’m not assuming that just because they’re wrong they would get called out for it - I’m saying that because of all the attention they get as is for things like forcing kids to go to year around schools, reassingments, etc. The parents in Wake Co (mostly Cary) are ridiculous, bottom line, and by this point, someone would have had a problem with it & brought it up. But regardless, it looks like they have the choice of standard or augmented scales.</p>
<p>As a sidenote, where do you see anything about transferring students? I know people who have had problems with their classes transferring to WCPSS, so that’s kind of interesting.</p>
<p>[WCPSS:</a> Board Policy - Acceptance of High School Transfer Credit (5535 R&P)](<a href=“http://www.wcpss.net/policy-files/series/policies/print-friendly/5535-rp.html]WCPSS:”>http://www.wcpss.net/policy-files/series/policies/print-friendly/5535-rp.html)</p>
<p>“Weighted credit for a course designated by the sending school system as Honors or AP only if a comparable course is designated Honors or AP in the current non-magnet WCPSS High School Planning Guide.”</p>
<p>When applied to NC schools I find this a violation of the above policy.</p>
<p>^The way NC Public schools weight their classes is very different compared to other schools. Most of them (at least mine) weight classes on a 6-point system with A=4.0 B=3.0 and so on and Honors = +1 and AP = +2 so an A in an AP class is six points. I don’t know if the OP uses the same system or not so I would take weighted GPA’s with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>Harambee, that’s the same scale we use for weighted and i’m from maryland. from what the others have said, the only difference i can see is that an A starts at 90% in maryland while in NC it starts at either 93% or 96%. is that right?</p>